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To: Sir Gawain
I quit being a cop over 20 years ago. Prior to that the "free press" was sending people to take pictures of the personal car license plates of the cops, then contacting the DMV to find out the addresses of the cops and publishing them.

Close to 30 years ago an outlaw motorcycle gang offered $10,000 to anybody who would set off a bomb at my HOME. Trying to take me out would be one thing, but going after my family another thing. I moved my family out of state and commenced to abuse them of this notion. Took about 7-9 months (it was a long time ago) but when they found out what having absolute terror coming home to their homes they decided they'ed made a very very bad error and the offer was rescinded.

Every person male or female that puts on a badge and a gun realizes that they may come home with a "tag on their toe", but their families are NOT EVER part of the equation. So if your upset that the cops are explaining the facts of life to an individual anal orifice or a whole group of them too fricking BAD!!!!!

195 posted on 07/12/2003 8:37:25 PM PDT by stumpy
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To: stumpy
Every person male or female that puts on a badge and a gun realizes that they may come home with a "tag on their toe", but their families are NOT EVER part of the equation

Sir first you should know that I have NOTHING but respect for you and your service ... two of my best friends are retired LEO's. That being said ... what has happened since the advent of the no-knock raid, the Ski Masked Ninja Cop and especially the amplified "them against us" attitude projected by an increasing of LEO's who seem more and more interested in being urban Rambos than police officers and governments using LEO's more and more as tax collectors ... what has happened is that the citizens of this country are losing their faith and trust in Law Enforcement.

The day used to be that the law abiding citizen was safe in the believe that if he stayed within the law ... or even tested some of the more beign borders of the law ... like having one or two drinks before driving a couple of blocks home ... he was safe in his knowledge that he would be ok. He believed that the cop was his friend and unless he was really a criminal he as a citizen would be treated with fairness and respect.

More and more it is become obvious that those days ... the days when you were a LEO ... are gone. We now live in an increasingly restrictive society leaning towards a police state. This restrictiveness is becoming more and more anathem to the concept of personal freedom AND responsibility and quite frankly ... more and more people are becoming fed up with it. When the common law abiding citizen has to worry whether they are going to be killed by a gang of Ninja clad wannabes in some wrong address no-knock raid ... they resent it. When the government thinks that it is the mother to all it's citizens and replaces the citizens judgement with it's own (it's for their own good you know) ... that's a form of tyranny ... and the normal citizen resents it. When a cop uses the color of authority and exacts revenge against a citizen over a private matter ... that is a heinous crime ... BUT when the cop gets away with it as easily as the one in this thread does ... it is veiwed as a travesty and the normal citizen becomes outraged.
Finally ... when this same senario becomes more and more commonplace as it has been lately ... the normal citizen starts to realize that things have GONE WAY TO FAR and that if he wants to keep his status as a citizen and not a subject ... he has got to take action and do something.

It is then that the normal citizen begins to realize that any cop that would participate in the tyranny and subjegation of the citizenry IS NOT doing the job we as the citizens of this country hired him to do ... and HAS thru THEIR actions become the enemy ....
It is at this point Joe Citizen realizes that the Ninja cop may be right ... it HAS become them against us ... and the first volley fired in that struggle is the posting of LEO addresses ... by normal law abiding citizens.

217 posted on 07/13/2003 7:47:00 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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