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Dispute Simmers Over Web Site Posting Personal Data on Police
NY Times ^ | July 12, 2003 | ADAM LIPTAK

Posted on 07/11/2003 8:09:36 PM PDT by jern

Dispute Simmers Over Web Site Posting Personal Data on Police By ADAM LIPTAK

illiam Sheehan does not like the police. He expresses his views about what he calls police corruption in Washington State on his Web site, where he also posts lists of police officers' addresses, home phone numbers and Social Security numbers.

State officials say those postings expose officers and their families to danger and invite identity theft. But neither litigation nor legislation has stopped Mr. Sheehan, who promises to expand his site to include every police and corrections officer in the state by the end of the year.

Mr. Sheehan says he obtains the information lawfully, from voter registration, property, motor vehicle and other official records. But his provocative use of personal data raises questions about how the law should address the dissemination of accurate, publicly available information that is selected and made accessible in a way that may facilitate the invasion of privacy, computer crime, even violence.

Larry Erickson, executive director of the Washington Association of Sheriffs and Police Chiefs, says the organization's members are disturbed by Mr. Sheehan's site.

"Police officers go out at night," Mr. Erickson said, "they make people mad, and they leave their families behind."

The law generally draws no distinction between information that is nominally public but hard to obtain and information that can be fetched with an Internet search engine and a few keystrokes. The dispute over Mr. Sheehan's site is similar to a debate that has been heatedly taken up around the nation, about whether court records that are public in paper form should be freely available on the Internet.

In 1989, in a case not involving computer technology, the Supreme Court did allow the government to refuse journalists' Freedom of Information Act request for paper copies of information it had compiled from arrest and conviction records available in scattered public files. The court cited the "practical obscurity" of the original records.

But once accurate information is in private hands like Mr. Sheehan's, the courts have been extremely reluctant to interfere with its dissemination.

Mr. Sheehan, a 41-year-old computer engineer in Mill Creek, Wash., near Seattle, says his postings hold the police accountable, by facilitating picketing, the serving of legal papers and research into officers' criminal histories. His site collects news articles and court papers about what he describes as inadequate and insincere police investigations, and about police officers who have themselves run afoul of the law.

His low opinion of the police has its roots, Mr. Sheehan says, in a 1998 dispute with the Police Department of Kirkland, Wash., over whether he lied in providing an alibi for a friend charged with domestic violence. Mr. Sheehan was found guilty of making a false statement and harassing a police officer and was sentenced to six months in jail, but served no time: the convictions were overturned.

He started his Web site in the spring of 2001. There are other sites focused on accusations of police abuse, he said, "but they stop short of listing addresses."

Yet if his site goes farther than others, Mr. Sheehan says, still it is not too far. "There is not a single incident," he said, "where a police officer has been harassed as a result of police-officer information being on the Internet."

Last year, in response to a complaint by the Kirkland police about Mr. Sheehan's site, the Washington Legislature enacted a law prohibiting the dissemination of the home addresses, phone numbers, birth dates and Social Security numbers of law enforcement, corrections and court personnel if it was meant "to harm or intimidate."

As a result, Mr. Sheehan, who had taken delight in bringing his project to the attention of local police departments, removed those pieces of information from his site. But he put them back in May, when a federal judge, deciding on a challenge brought by Mr. Sheehan himself, struck down the law as unconstitutional.

The ruling, by John C. Coughenour, chief judge of the Federal District Court in Seattle, said Mr. Sheehan's site was "analytically indistinguishable from a newspaper."

"There is cause for concern," Judge Coughenour wrote, "when the Legislature enacts a statute proscribing a type of political speech in a concerted effort to silence particular speakers."

The state government, he continued, "boldly asserts the broad right to outlaw any speech — whether it be anti-Semitic, anti-choice, radical religious, or critical of police — so long as a jury of one's peers concludes that the speaker subjectively intends to intimidate others with that speech."

Bruce E. H. Johnson, a Seattle lawyer specializing in First Amendment issues, said Judge Coughenour was correct in striking down the statute because it treated identical publicly available information differently depending on the authorities' perception of the intent of the person who disseminated it.

"It forces local prosecutors to become thought police," Mr. Johnson said.

Elena Garella, Mr. Sheehan's lawyer, said there was one principle at the heart of the case.

"Once the cat is out of the bag," she said, "the government has no business censoring information or punishing people who disseminate it."

Fred Olson, a spokesman for the state attorney general, Christine O. Gregoire, said the state would not appeal Judge Coughenour's decision.

"Our attorneys reviewed the decision and the case law," Mr. Olson said, "and they just felt there was very, very little likelihood that we would prevail on appeal. Our resources are much better used to find a legislative solution."

But Bill Finkbeiner, a state senator who was the main sponsor of the law that was struck down, said the judge's opinion left little room for a legislative repair. He said he was frustrated.

"This isn't just bad for police officers and corrections employees," Mr. Finkbeiner said. "It really doesn't bode well for anybody. Access to personal information changes when that information is put in electronic form."

Mr. Sheehan says one sort of data he has posted has given him pause.

"I'll be honest and say I do have a quandary over the Social Security numbers," he said. "I'm going to publish them because that's how I got the rest of my information, and I want to let people verify my data. But our state government shouldn't be releasing that data."

Lt. Rex Caldwell, a spokesman for the Police Department in Kirkland, said his colleagues there were resigned to Mr. Sheehan's site, and added that much of the information posted on it was out of date.

When the matter first came up, "people were extremely unhappy about it," Lieutenant Caldwell said. "Now it's more of an annoyance than anything else. The official line from the chief is that we're still concerned. At the same time, everyone's greatest fear, of people using this to track them down, has not materialized."

Nor is there any indication that the site has led to identity theft, he said.

Brightening, Lieutenant Caldwell said some officers even welcomed the posting of their home addresses, if that encouraged Mr. Sheehan to visit.

"If he wants to drop by the house," Lieutenant Caldwell said, "the police officers would be more than happy to welcome him. We're all armed and trained."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: privacy
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To: Brian S
"What goes around, comes around."

Here's hoping you receive your own rewards soon.

61 posted on 07/11/2003 10:09:00 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Brytani
So a cop investigating a murder/rape/burglary/larceny/pick your crime doesn't protect you? I forget, everyone lives in a vacuum and their actions effect no other people. When a child molester is caught, no children are protected. When the cops arrest a serial killer or serial rapist nobody in society is protected.

Fair enough, if that's what you mean by protect I'm with you all the way, but that's not how you put it. You tried the ol' "if you're getting ready to die and a cop comes and saves you, you'd think different" cliche'. That save the day stuff is an old wives tale.and you know it.

62 posted on 07/11/2003 10:09:32 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: AAABEST
And by the way, King County Washington is where Mr. Sheehan is posting the information on the officers.
63 posted on 07/11/2003 10:09:44 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
They are too busy to attend, spending their time anonymously posting their hatred of cops on here.
64 posted on 07/11/2003 10:11:50 PM PDT by Brytani (Politics: n. from Greek; "poli"-many; "tics"-ugly, bloodsucking parasites.)
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To: Brytani
It's far safer. Not that any of them wouldn't be willing to publicly defend their stance...I'm sure.
65 posted on 07/11/2003 10:13:14 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: AAABEST
Having had my ass literally saved by a cop, I'd disagree. However, since most people will not be in the situation I was in a personal understanding of what cops do is beyond their comprehension.
66 posted on 07/11/2003 10:15:01 PM PDT by Brytani (Politics: n. from Greek; "poli"-many; "tics"-ugly, bloodsucking parasites.)
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To: Brytani
Yeap, cops just pull people over to harrass them. They never do it because maybe the person is breaking a law, or heaven forbid..

I didn't say or even allude to any of that, what are you talking about?

Of course!!! I get it now, cops should just decide which laws they will enforce and which ones they won't.

Oh bah. They love their Friday night roadblocks where everyone gets asked for their papers and gets a mini interrogation, it's not like it's torture for them and nobody is forcing them to do it. They do it because they can.

Also, you shouldn't be bringing the supreme court up around here nowadays. It'll cause you to lose an argument real quick.

67 posted on 07/11/2003 10:15:24 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: CWOJackson
I will say that posting their SSNs bothers me.

I'd rather see who they live next to and what parish church they attend.
68 posted on 07/11/2003 10:15:57 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Brytani
Yeap, all cops do is protect those in their ranks who brake the laws, harrass innocent criminals and make life miserable for us poor folks under their boots.

Your words, not mine.

I was told by a retired cop in my community that it would be unwise to refuse to let a cop search my vehicle if I was ever pulled over for a traffic violation and the cop asked. While I have nothing to hide, I consider it a violation of my rights. He cautioned me that my refusal could prompt a radio call for the drug dogs to be called while the officer stalled, waiting for their arrival. I was further cautioned that, once on the scene, few people know what signals are given to the dogs. So if the dogs make a fuss, the officer might then "pull something out of your car seat" that wasn't there before you were pulled over.

So plead your case about the integrity of all officers when we innocent private citizens can be reasonably certain that all officers are deserving of our accolades.

69 posted on 07/11/2003 10:16:03 PM PDT by bjcintennessee
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To: jern
The data base sounds like a good idea to me.

It will help greatful citizens send Thank You cards, Christmas presents, etc to LEOs who have been a genuine help to them. It will help police groupies and supporters to show their appreciation but doing little things like cutting their lawn, painting their houses, washing their cars and even shining their boots. It will allow citizens that really appreciate all the help they have had from the police to look out for their families while they are on duty.

Sheehan should consider making up playing cards or trading cards with pictures, names, addresses, phone numbers etc of these hard working, fearless and helpful boys and girls in blue.

70 posted on 07/11/2003 10:16:23 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon
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To: CWOJackson
If that's the case, your argument is much more valid. If it's equal justice for all occupations, civilian and not I'm all for it.
71 posted on 07/11/2003 10:17:59 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: Fred Mertz; CWOJackson
I will say that posting their SSNs bothers me.

I will too.

72 posted on 07/11/2003 10:19:45 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: AAABEST
You said "I believe in equal justice under the law. If we can't look up the cop's asses they shouldn't be able to look up our any time they want. If they can look up ours any time they want we should be able to do the same. "

So we should be able to look at a bank tellers checking account, know what a grocery store clerk eats for dinner, what your doctor's cholesterol level is?

What part of privacy is so hard to understand? I agree that police officers should only look up information for legitimate purposes and some may take advantage of that.

But just because a few officers take advantage does not mean that all of them should have to have their information easily accessable.
73 posted on 07/11/2003 10:21:16 PM PDT by my3centseuro
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To: AAABEST
That is the case, and not just here in King County but all of Washington state and most every other state.

But Mr. Sheehan is free to make the very same information public on county employees.

74 posted on 07/11/2003 10:21:32 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
So go make a website against sheenan. I'm guessing he's been investigated heavily and they're not finding anything yet.

By the way things sound though, he's being gone after and harmed more than anyone who he's put on his site. I'll be he's got some legal bills.

God works in strange ways, we don't always have to make a law for everything.

75 posted on 07/11/2003 10:25:28 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: bjcintennessee
He cautioned me that my refusal could prompt a radio call for the drug dogs to be called while the officer stalled, waiting for their arrival. I was further cautioned that, once on the scene, few people know what signals are given to the dogs. So if the dogs make a fuss, the officer might then "pull something out of your car seat" that wasn't there before you were pulled over.

Yep, the nerd in the back of the class grew up and now has a gun and a badge and is going to make sure you know who's boss. And I hear they shoot family dogs for sport in Tennessee.

76 posted on 07/11/2003 10:26:56 PM PDT by Sir Gawain (My other tagline is a Porsche)
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To: my3centseuro
What part of privacy is so hard to understand?

I agree we shoud have privacy. Why are my friends and neighbors getting stopped by uniformed men with dogs and asked for papers then?

This is what you call backlash.

77 posted on 07/11/2003 10:27:45 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: AAABEST
For anyone to post the same information on Mr. Sheehan would be illegal.

But it's good to see that you really don't care at all about equal treatment of personal information; afterall, the cops obviously deserve it right?

78 posted on 07/11/2003 10:29:19 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Brytani
Yeap, cops just pull people over to harrass them. They never do it because maybe the person is breaking a law, or heaven forbid, their legislature has passed a law that allows random checks (backed up by the supreme court btw).

Back before it was nationally publicized on some news show (20/20, Primetime Live, etc. don't remember), if you drove through Louisiana with out-of-state plates (especially Texas), you had a good chance of being pulled over for no reason, by cops on a fishing expedition. I knew plenty of people that had this happen to them (as well as myself) - family, friends, people that were serving at Barksdale with me or under me, but that is for another thread.

To get back on topic, I will say I don't think the SS#s should be posted, but then again state agencies collect and use our SS#s, so..

79 posted on 07/11/2003 10:30:31 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: CWOJackson
But it's good to see that you really don't care at all about equal treatment of personal information; afterall, the cops obviously deserve it right?

The way I see it, the cops are an extension of the government, even if it is at the local level. The government (in case you've missed the umpteen-billion threads on FR) is trying to collect lots and lots of data on us.

President Bush is letting Poindexter (somebody who broke a few laws) try and come up with all kinds of ways to track us. Ashcroft wanted us to spy on one another. I could go on, but the point is, the government wants to know who we are/what we do, etc., no reason that we can't turn that around. If the cops want to complain about it, then they need to raise the same concerns that we on FR do.

80 posted on 07/11/2003 10:34:05 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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