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The Tipping Divide: Study Finds Differences in Tips by Black, White Restaurant Patrons
National Public Radio ^ | 7/11/2003 | National Public Radio

Posted on 07/11/2003 3:48:00 PM PDT by 07055

July 11, 2003 -- A new study finds many waiters and waitresses feel that black Americans generally tip less than restaurant diners who are white. The study, by a researcher at Cornell University's School of Hotel Administration, found that blacks tip on average 20 percent less than whites. In addition, restaurant workers of all races dislike waiting on black people because they assume the tips will be less no matter how good the service. NPR's Juan Williams reports.

The study found that 63 percent of blacks and 30 percent of whites didn't understand that the standard restaurant tip in the United States is 15 to 20 percent. The difference between how blacks and whites view tipping has serious ramifications for restaurants, including lawsuits and lost profits, Williams reports.

"The average tip from a black customer is about 13 percent of the bill. The average tip from a white customer is about 16.5 percent of the bill," says Dr. Michael Lynn, the study's author.

In some cases the difference in tipping may be the result of poor service, but blacks interviewed in one of Lynn's studies rated the service slightly higher yet still tipped less than whites, he says.

Jerry Fernandez, president of the Multicultural Food Alliance, which represents food servers and restaurateurs, says the expectations of a lower tip from blacks can often lead to poor service.

"If a [waiter] says, 'I don't want to wait on that table because they're black or they're Hispanic, then they tend to give less service and it's a self-fulfilling prophecy," Fernandez explains.

He says cultural elements -- blacks have avoided sit-down restaurants in favor of take out or self-service eateries -- institutionalized racism that exists in the restaurant industry and education about tipping are all behind the discrepancy. "How do people learn about tipping? If you don't go, you don't know."

Lynn suggests that the American restaurant industry begin a campaign to inform people about the basics of leaving a tip. He urges the use of advertisements, educational pamphlets, and even putting tipping information on menus. And Lynn suggests that restaurants could introduce a game in which dining parties would have to tip at least 15 percent in order to be eligible to win a contest.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: tipping
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To: HairOfTheDog
There are a lot of polite customs in this society that are not legally required. I am a very good tipper, especially at my regular places.

Yes!

I might have been six years old, and I noticed Daddy had left some change on the table (this would be 1956)

So, I collected it, and told him that he had left some money on the table. He then explained the concept to me, that the waitresses (waiters were unknown) made very low wage, and one always leaves some money for them.

A six year old got it.

Back to black folks being substandard tippers; it's just too bad that some academe thought this worthy of investigation. I question it all.

It is mostly likely not scientific - i.e. having a sufficient number of cases, and proper control on the experiment.

IOW, this guy/gal had an idea that needing proving. So it was.

81 posted on 07/11/2003 4:26:27 PM PDT by don-o
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To: Lijahsbubbe
Hay,stop picking on the old folks. I'm old and tip well and I also smoke.

My daughter,a non-smoker and former waitress(or should I say "waitperson"),said smokers are the best tippers.


82 posted on 07/11/2003 4:26:50 PM PDT by Mears
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To: 07055
I've only stiffed a waitress on a tip once in my life, and that was because the service was so bad it almost defied description. We ended up waiting well over an hour to get any food served.

What really annoys me is seeing the giant tip jars with the signs at the fast-food walk up counter joints. I'm not tipping guys just for flipping a couple of burgers around the grill or making a sandwich.

83 posted on 07/11/2003 4:27:44 PM PDT by jpl
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To: Just another Joe
LOL! I only asked because Cheers is the only other place I've seen or heard of that tipping practice. It's a good idea, IMO; I'm surprised it hasn't caught on more.
84 posted on 07/11/2003 4:28:02 PM PDT by Welsh Rabbit
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To: HighWheeler
The people and their attitude drove the tip, my effort had virtually no impact on the tip. The more detailed the dinner order, by anyone, the less the tip.

I know what you mean..... I have a friend who is so cold and so picky and so cheap with a tip, I have overtipped when with her out of sheer embarrassment. I have not been afraid to work on her about it though, and she has actually gotten better.

85 posted on 07/11/2003 4:28:36 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: 07055
A lot of patrons couldn't calculate 10%, 15%, or any other percentage if their lives depended upon it.
86 posted on 07/11/2003 4:29:11 PM PDT by Neanderthal (Kick their @$$ and take their gas.)
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To: Welsh Rabbit
LOL! I only asked because Cheers is the only other place I've seen or heard of that tipping practice. It's a good idea, IMO; I'm surprised it hasn't caught on more.

Same thing was done on "Third Rock from the Sun". Dick put a huge stack of one's on the table, told the wait staff that this was their potential tip, any mistakes they would make, he was removing a dollar.

87 posted on 07/11/2003 4:29:32 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: don-o
Back to black folks being substandard tippers; it's just too bad that some academe thought this worthy of investigation. I question it all.

Agreed, and as the thread shows, it is not an angle very many people are interested in.

88 posted on 07/11/2003 4:29:44 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: 07055
Nasseruden, the mad prophet of Arabia, once got very poor service.

So he left a huge tip.

The next time he was in that resturaunt, the waiter remembered him and lavished attention on him.

He left a penny.

Miffed, the waiter said, "What's this??? You give me a penny when I was very attentive???"

Nasseruden said, "Oh, that's the tip for last time, the tip last time was for the service this time..."



89 posted on 07/11/2003 4:30:55 PM PDT by null and void
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To: Lijahsbubbe
I am white, christian, female, and 59 years old. I always tip at least 20% even if the service is only so-so...more if it is excellent. All five of the women I meet for dinner once a month are in the same categories. We all tip very much the same. You can find tightwads in every category.

People whose kids have waited tables tend to be generous regardless of service. Yes, mine did.
90 posted on 07/11/2003 4:31:24 PM PDT by Purdue Pete
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To: Welsh Rabbit
Tasty.

I love Welsh Rabbit!
91 posted on 07/11/2003 4:31:45 PM PDT by ido_now
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To: Lijahsbubbe
Or they could use their increase for the casinos!

Don'e even get me started on that....every day at those places is a freakin' Q-tip convention (all the ladies hairdos)...but the dems would have you believe none of them have enough for prescription meds and they are choosing between their meds and eating canned dog food.

92 posted on 07/11/2003 4:31:54 PM PDT by ScottinSacto
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To: jocon307
...anyone who has ever worked for tips is a good tipper.

Yep. See 62. Absolute fact.

My personal advice has always been to leave a little more if it looks like you're going to return soon. Anyone who thinks that waitress A doesn't tell waiter B who is tipping heavy hasn't tried it.

Two exceptions to the rule I did find in my brief tenure in this little world were (1) restaurants directing all tips to be placed in a common kitty, and (2) restaurants wherein the bussers shared the tips with the wait staff. In the first case contributions to that kitty became a matter of pride among the wait staff; in the second it was kind of an incentive-killer. My first experience with crypto-socialism. It didn't work very well.

93 posted on 07/11/2003 4:32:20 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: CFC__VRWC
If the servers are THAT bad, then you really need to go speak to the manager. Any good restaurant manager has zero tolerance for servers who give the customers a hard time. They figure you'll tell all your friends, and they'll lose all their business as well as yours.

Well, it doesn't help when the manager on duty is a high-schooler, too.

Incidentally, two local restaurants have closed because of lack of business. This is in an area that is growing (but the food industry hasn't caught up yet), and you may have to wait 30 minutes or more for a table at most places.

I attribute both of those closings to poor service... primarily teen wait staff. People I knew just refused to go there.

As I said before, I like to go to places where adults are working. Things just work out better. My family has a nicer time, and the waiters get a healthy tip.

94 posted on 07/11/2003 4:32:25 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: Mears
Goes to show ya stereotypes never work!
95 posted on 07/11/2003 4:32:31 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: HighWheeler
In the pizza biz, you learn real quick which neighborhoods and addresses had the great tippers and the lousy tippers. At the stores where I worked the runs went out in the order that the drivers came into the store (oldest run, first driver, etc.). The lengths the drivers would go to to look at the addresses and jockey for position were just mind-boggling. It would be a cycle, with drivers getting angrier and angrier with each other for "snaking " runs, until the managers would get tired of hearing all the bitching and hold crew meetings where they would tell us to cut out the BS. And then it would start all over again.
96 posted on 07/11/2003 4:33:16 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC (Hippies. They want to save the earth, but all they do is smoke dope and smell bad.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
They have a job, just like me.

And they get paid for that job. It may not be what they, or we, think is enough but they do get paid.
A tip is for going above and beyond the job.
20% is a decent tip. If I do a good job I get a annual bonus. If I don't I don't get a bonus. It's called incentive.
I don't mind giving an incentive for someone to do a good job.

As for being embarrassed, I save that for when I really make a faux pa. Like spilling my vodka. ;^)

97 posted on 07/11/2003 4:33:41 PM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: PresbyRev
I've found that reverends that use gutter language and bash Christians are generally self-righteous, members of the Church of the what's happenin now new agers that don't believe the gospel and use the language of Christianity to try and shove a socialist/libertarian dogma down the throats of the unsuspecting and don't know a single line of scripture except "judge not lest ye be judged" and don't know which book it came and are more likely to quote Maya Angelou during a sermon than Jesus Christ, and will still be running their Churches after the rapture. Of course, I try not to prejudge people. It wouldn't be Christian.
98 posted on 07/11/2003 4:34:22 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: HairOfTheDog
I have overtipped when with her out of sheer embarrassment. I have not been afraid to work on her about it though, and she has actually gotten better.

You are just too cool!

99 posted on 07/11/2003 4:34:40 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: A_perfect_lady
I went into a mom and pop type restaurant that required the customers to place their orders at the counter, wait for the order, and then take their own order to the table of choice. The owners had a tip jar on the counter. I stood their thinking "they want me to pay for my order and tip them for taking it?".
100 posted on 07/11/2003 4:35:25 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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