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Racing and race meet head-on in culture clash
Sun Sentinel ^
| 11 July 2003
| Sandra Pedicini
Posted on 07/11/2003 10:23:40 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
DAYTONA BEACH -- Even at speeds of almost 200 mph, NASCAR can't outrun racial controversy.
More than 100,000 fans packed Daytona International Speedway for the Pepsi 400 on Fourth of July weekend, and the overwhelming majority were white -- just like all of the drivers.
While trying to broaden its appeal to minorities, NASCAR has found itself in the middle of a political brawl and taking punches from both sides.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nascar; race; racing
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To: stainlessbanner
I'm lost. Why do we care?
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posted on
07/11/2003 10:24:04 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
To: stainlessbanner
And well over 50% of the NBA are blacks even tho they're only 12% of the population . . . what's the point? Wouldn't it be nice if we stopped counting?
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posted on
07/11/2003 10:26:29 AM PDT
by
laweeks
To: AppyPappy
We care because, as the article explains, NASCAR is paying the Reverend Jesse Jackson a quarter million in protection money not to protest the sport for its unfortunately Caucasian aspects.
I think it's a racket and it needs to stop.
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posted on
07/11/2003 10:29:16 AM PDT
by
wideawake
(God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
To: AppyPappy
We should all care a little when Jesse Jackson shows up to shake down another company/industry. Yup, it's only a sport...But a shakedown's a shakedown.
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posted on
07/11/2003 10:29:54 AM PDT
by
Cyber Liberty
(© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
To: stainlessbanner
"Still, Farrell said, "There is a perception about NASCAR, right or wrong, that stock car racing is a good ol' boy, Southern, redneck, cracker sport." I think this is correct. What's wrong with that, though.
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posted on
07/11/2003 10:30:15 AM PDT
by
Sam Cree
(Democrats are herd animals)
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07/11/2003 10:30:16 AM PDT
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To: Sam Cree
nascar and race are the same as indians and fightin' whities
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posted on
07/11/2003 10:33:02 AM PDT
by
RWG
To: Sam Cree
I think this is correct. What's wrong with that, though. Theoretically, it's bad business. It would be better for Nascar if 20 million blacks and hispanics were fans..
But, every sport is limited in it's fan base. Football, for example, doesn't appeal to women over 40, and it never will. The NFL would be making a mistake if it was shaken down by Patricia Ireland over that issue.
Race is a more sensitive issue, but perhaps the super loyalty and enthusiasm of Nascar fans is in part based upon their perception of it being a southern white male brotherhood. If that's the case, then Nascar is making a mistake paying off Jesse Jackson.
Now, that's the extreme example, although some of that exists. The reality, I think, is that black culture just isn't into tinkering with cars and racing them around on local tracks. Just like we're not into the stuff they do with ther cars why they bounce up and down.
It doesn't mean that anyone is a racist. It just means that the Nascar fan base grows out of a car culture that black culture, on a whole, just isn't very interested in.
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posted on
07/11/2003 10:36:25 AM PDT
by
Rodney King
(No, we can't all just get along.)
To: Cyber Liberty
I'm still lost. Do they think NASCAR fans care about JJ?
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posted on
07/11/2003 10:38:39 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
To: AppyPappy; Cyber Liberty; wideawake; Sam Cree; billbears; aomagrat; 4ConservativeJustices; ...
Why do we care?Maybe you can explain why you don't care (if that's your position). I care and many other FReepers care because:
- It's newsworthy
- We are racing fans
- We support equal rights for everyone
- We are tired of shakedowns and coercions by race-baiters
- We will not tolerate quotas, special preferences and high ticket prices
- We tailgate every year at Daytona with black racing fans - they don't have a problem with the sport.
Now, boogity, boogity, boogity, let's go racin'!
To: Sam Cree
I attend NASCAR Winston Cup races, I'm white,sixty years old and I don't give a crap who else joins me in the crowd of 140,000 in the stands. We all like to see these drivers go fast. What the heck does this have to do with RACE? I started liking Nascar because of my interest in racing, not because I liked hanging around other white people. If blacks liked racing, they would go to races. The minute they start busing these people to events is the day there will be trouble. Learn to get through life on your own. IF they want 20 per cent of the drivers to be black,then I want 80 per cent of the NBA to be white. Stop this race bull---- or this country will erupt.
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posted on
07/11/2003 10:40:14 AM PDT
by
mict42
To: laweeks
Agreed. Stop counting already, and while we're at it stop selecting, admitting or promoting based on race.
But then again, this is simply the ongoing Jackson-led effort to keep separatist ideas alive. The man has no shame.
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posted on
07/11/2003 10:41:08 AM PDT
by
tongue-tied
(Knot Me!)
To: Rodney King
"It doesn't mean that anyone is a racist. It just means that the Nascar fan base grows out of a car culture that black culture, on a whole, just isn't very interested in." I think that's about the size of it. Since, to my knowledge, blacks are not excluded, it's a non issue.
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posted on
07/11/2003 10:41:12 AM PDT
by
Sam Cree
(Democrats are herd animals)
To: stainlessbanner
What's with all the Black racial threads today? What does Jesse have to say about Venus (or was it her sister?) who won Wimbleton for the second time. What does he say about Tiger Woods - oh, but he's probably not even 50% black so how does that count? Jeez, I'm so tired of all this.
To: AppyPappy
No, they know NASCAR fans can't stand Jesse Jackson. They're trying to sneak this "donation" through without the fans knowing about it.
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posted on
07/11/2003 10:44:49 AM PDT
by
Cyber Liberty
(© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
To: mict42
"The minute they start busing these people to events is the day there will be trouble" Don't know if anyone is seriesly talking about enforcing racial preferences in audiences, but it wouldn't surprise me. Maybe they can regulate who watches what TV shows while they're at it. And then they can fix who wins the Daytona, by racial quotas, to make it fair and equal to all races.
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posted on
07/11/2003 10:47:10 AM PDT
by
Sam Cree
(Democrats are herd animals)
To: stainlessbanner
There are black conservative groups that can be supported. Jackson is a criminal.
So9
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posted on
07/11/2003 10:50:14 AM PDT
by
Servant of the Nine
(Real Texicans; we're grizzled, we're grumpy and we're armed)
To: Sam Cree
"Still, Farrell said, "There is a perception about NASCAR, right or wrong, that stock car racing is a good ol' boy, Southern, redneck, cracker sport."Yet another reason we should care, summed up right here. Racing is looked down upon by the northeastern Ivy-League elitists and the Hollyweird "royalty." To them, racing is a giant waste of natural resources that is only enjoyed by the tacky unwashed masses, and since it offends their sense of aesthetics it should be banned.
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posted on
07/11/2003 10:53:37 AM PDT
by
CFC__VRWC
(Hippies. They want to save the earth, but all they do is smoke dope and smell bad.)
To: CFC__VRWC
"There is a perception about NASCAR, right or wrong, that stock car racing is a good ol' boy, Southern, redneck, cracker sport." Not a derogatory statement, IMO.
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posted on
07/11/2003 10:58:12 AM PDT
by
Sam Cree
(Democrats are herd animals)
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