My husband, Vietnam Veteran/Ex-Marine, should get a large portion of the credit. He rocks.
Also, heard on CNN Joe Biden backing off this story real quick. More like the "giving Bush the benefit of the doubt". He must have been the unnamed Democrat who was squeamish about the DNC strategy.
See post 117 for new info..
Post 117 ....fyi.
I already sent FOX a very loud and truthful message. If they don't change their story by the end of the day, I'm going to send the message again and again, until they see the truth. This is nothing more than an attack on the personal integrity of the President.
The reason I believe they're using this "lie" stuff to try to prove again - everybody does it - and just because we (democrats) supported a lying rapist, we don't want to look bad for supporting a lying rapist - therefore we have to prove ALL presidents lie; especially all republicans - and especially republicans who steal elections from us!
I couldn't agree with you more! Trying to clear the way for a Hillary run is my guess!
Just like the JFK Jr. book coming out at this point in time? Something is behind all of this and that stench would have to be the Clintons.
Great research! This all points right back at the liberal wing of the RAT Party headed by Hillary. The amount of anti-Bush press this story is getting has to be out of her talking point memo's to the press.
Dog -- do we know who owns Capitol Hill Blue? Its parent company is who got the original talking points from the DNC (Hillary) about attacking Pres Bush on Iraq AFTER the war was over.
There is another fly in the ointment. A one Mr. Rand Beers. Rand Beers who served under Reagan, GHWB, Clinton, and GWB. Beers served as Senior Director for Combating Terrorism in the current Administration.
His previous service record is as follows:
Senior Director for Combating Terrorism
RAND BEERS
National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice announced August 15 the appointment of Mr. Rand Beers as Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Combating Terrorism, effective August 19, 2002.
For the last four years, Mr. Beers served as Assistant Secretary of State for International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs. He has also held various positions in the State Department's Bureau of Political Military Affairs: Deputy Assistant Secretary for Regional Affairs and Export Control, Deputy for Strategy and the Operations Coordinator for Regional Affairs and Security Assistance, Director of the Office of Security Analysis and the Office of International Security Policy, and Deputy Director of the Office of Policy Analysis. Additionally, he has served three times on the National Security Council staff and was the Deputy Political Advisor to the Supreme Allied Commander, Europe.
A native of Washington, D.C., Mr. Beers holds two degrees in history: a B.A. from Dartmouth and a M.A. from the University of Michigan. He is married to Bonnie Beers; they have two children.
http://usinfo.state.gov/topical/pol/nsc.htm#beers Are we to believe that Mr. Beers, after serving in a capacity that included vetting Central American drug running during the Iran Contra Days, who managed to swallow his extreme attacks of conscience at that time, who headed the investigation of the shooting down of a plane carrying missionaries over Peru
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/primetime/2020/primetime_010524_perutransmissions_feature.html Mr. Beers, a Registered Democrat
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A62941-2003Jun15¬Found=true suddenly had an attack of conscious so bad prior to the Iraq war that he resigned only five days before the war started and went to work for the campaign of John F. Kerry?
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Beers's resignation surprised Washington, but what he did next was even more astounding. Eight weeks after leaving the Bush White House, he volunteered as national security adviser for Sen. John F. Kerry (Mass.), a Democratic candidate for president, in a campaign to oust his former boss. All of which points to a question: What does this intelligence insider know?
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Mr. Beers who served as "Deputy Political Advisor to the Supreme Allied Commander, Europe."
R. RAND BEERS, deputy political adviser, Supreme Allied Commander Europe, 1973-75;
deputy director, Office of Policy Analysis, Bureau of Political Military Affairs, Department of
State, 1982-84; director, Office of International Security Policy, Department of State, 1984-86;
deputy director for military contingencies, Bureau of Political Military Affairs, Department of
State, 1986-88; director for counterterrorism and narcotics, National Security Council, 1988-92;
director for multilateral affairs, National Security Council, 1993-95; senior director for
intelligence, National Security Council, 1995-98; assistant secretary for international narcotics
and law enforcement affairs, Department of State, 1998-present.
http://www.puaf.umd.edu/CISSM/Projects/NSC/Clinton.pdf Any other names sound familiar when you hear Supreme Allied Commander Europe? Maybe Wesley Clark? No, they didn't serve at the same time but this reeks to me!
Rand Beers who attempted to shut down the CIA's investigation of the links between Al Qaeda and Iran in 1996.
http://www.rense.com/general19/one.htm [snip]
By then, I was a group chief and could instruct my stations to do essentially what I wanted, so I leaned on our offices in the Caspian and Central Asia to concentrate on the Iranian target. Early in 1996, one place came up with a plan to bug a clandestine Pasdaran facility. At that point, we had no idea what the Pasdaran was doing in the Caspian, but the possibility always existed that it intended to open a third front, in addition to Saudi Arabia. Any information would have been helpful.
I knew the routine and called Heslin for her permission to go ahead. I described what we intended to do, what we expected the take to be, and what the benefit would be to US interests in the region. I could feel a frigid Arctic air coming over the telephone line.
Less than 20 minutes later, my green phone rang - the super- encrypted communications line used for discussing sensitive information. Rand Beers was on the other end. "What's this about the Iranian Pasdaran and some audio operation?" he asked.
"Yeah, what's the problem?"
"Well, Heslin's worried about the blowback."
"The blowback?"
"She's afraid the Iranians will take revenge on Amoco's people in Azerbaijan."
I was furious. "Do you mean to tell me we have to stop an operation against a terrorist group - one perhaps responsible for killing five Americans in Saudi Arabia - to protect Amoco's balance sheets?"
"Well, I wouldn't put it that way," Beers said.
"Fine, I'll call Congress and tell them that Sheila Heslin, Amoco's ambassador to the NSC, no longer wants us to target the Iranian Pasdaran because we're worried about Amoco's profits."
Like a good bureaucrat, I fired off what is called a spot report to the deputy director of operations, Dave Cohen, about my conversation with Beers. I got no response, but Beers called back that same day to tell me the NSC had had a change of mind and decided not to object to South Group's targeting the Pasdaran. Congress and Iran had a certain resonance in the White House.
I remember thinking that it should have been a big moment. After all the bureaucratic infighting within the intelligence community, I had finally won one. For a moment, at least, the battle against terrorism had trumped the battle for oil money. But I was just so tired of it all. We were talking about lives, for God's sake. The fight shouldn't have been so difficult.
How do you call an end to a career that has taken you so far into the heart of darkness and shown you so many of the secrets that lie there? I didn't want to go out bitter, but I didn't want just to slink away, either. I'd spent a quarter-century building up a body of knowledge and a set of instincts about some of the worst people and most dangerous organisations on the planet. I decided to find out, really find out, to the best of my knowledge, the truth behind Iranian-sponsored terrorism.
Maybe, I thought, the search would lead me to what I considered the biggest secret of all, the one that had been gnawing at me for more than 13 years: who bombed the US embassy in Beirut, and why had they never been brought to justice? If we couldn't identify who had done it, if we couldn't even learn what kind of explosives had been used, chances are it would all happen again, maybe at a far greater magnitude. It had become obvious to me that the new, politically correct CIA was neither up to nor interested in the challenge.
I started out by running a computer search for intelligence we knew to be factual on the hostages in Lebanon. The phantom I kept running up against in my investigation was the IJO. It seemed to pop into existence whenever some new horror was inflicted in the Middle East and elsewhere, and then it seemed to slip completely back into the shadows again.
And then it occurred to me: the IJO had never existed. It was only a name the Pasdaran used for communiquÈs to claim terrorist operations. What's more, the CIA knew the IJO was merely a front for the Iranians. It was clear from the documents I dredged up that, by at least 1997, the CIA knew the Pasdaran's command structure inside and out, just as it knew that Ayatollah Ali Khameini and President Rafsanjani approved every terrorist operation to come out of Iran. As I looked at the evidence in front of me, the conclusion was unavoidable: the Islamic Republic of Iran had declared a secret war against the US, and the US had chosen to ignore it.
When the world as most of us knew it began to fall apart on the morning of September 11, 2001, I was at my home in Washington DC. If United Airlines Flight 93 had been allowed by its passengers to fly on to its intended destination, I would have heard it crash into the White House. If the target had been the Capitol, and it might have been, I would have felt the crash as well.
For me, the irony of the situation was hard to miss. After two decades in some of earth's true hellholes, I had returned to the heart of the most powerful nation on earth, protected by a military force such as the world has never known, watched over by domestic and foreign security services that number in the hundreds of thousands. And what had saved the city I was living in? Not the CIA. Not the FBI. Not the air force or navy or marines or army. But the raw courage and determination of a fistful of average Americans. The lapse made me furious to think about.
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Rand Beers who I repeat, resigned just prior to the start of the war in Iraq. Who was privy to all kinds of intelligence information who now works for the John F. Kerry campaign. John F. Kerry who made a "major education policy speech" yesterday to some 3000 teachers. That speech managed to touch the topic of education exactly twice. Once to make sure they all knew he was "vehemently opposed to vouchers", and the second to let them all know he was more than a little unhappy about GWB's No Child Left Behind policy.
The balance of his speech focused on GWB and intel and attempting to portray this Administration as, at best, untrustworthy.
I submit that there is a leak, a real leak. One that's going straight to the campaign of John F. Kerry and most likely the DNC. One Mr. Rand Beers.
Sorry, I meant to ping you to post 128 as well.
I would say that your premise may have some legs with Beers involvement.
The biggest problem is that Kerry does not have the power to get all this to the press and keep pushing it. This is coming from the Clintons because they are the only ones with the power to to get this kind of media attention and keep pushing it on broadcast after broadcast.
Dean is also involved in pushing this story. My guess is that it is a consortium of RATs headed by Hillary because all the candidates have jumped on the bandwagon. If it was headed by Kerry, not all of them would be following along.
Thanks, this bozo rat Beers appears to be a real trouble maker.
I doubt if he is leaking as much as fabricating and shaping reality to fit the DNC and Kerry's goals.
He doesn't exist? Dang! This gets stranger by the minute. Wish we had one thread going as I keep going back and forth between several! LOL!
Perhaps, but I would submit that all Kerry really has to do is have a mole plant the seeds. From there the NYT, WP, and others pick it up and it's all downhill from there.
Gore's not going to run.