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To: r9etb
The link I gave you in post 196 doesn't work and when I fix it it still doesn't work, sorry. The article was posted twice under different titles. Search FR for Buchanan for the bigger one and Wilson for the smaller of the two if you have the interest and the time.

what's this crap about "conservatives support "continuous war"?

I will answer that but I warn you up front to keep an opened mind because it is very against the grain. I'm just asking you ponder before you react.

What do you think the cold war was? one continuous war, right. Did you ever wonder about the how's and why's of it beyond white hats vs black hats, US vs. the Godless commie bastards? Ever wonder why we never tried to win it and why the Dems and the establishment GOP got so upset when Reagan really did want to actually win? Ever wonder why Democrat administrations riddled with communists set forth policy to fight communism? Ever wonder why the FBI knew who were communist agents in the government but never arrested them? Ever wonder why we actually sent aid to the USSR when they were our mortal enemy? or why our government "lost" China to the reds? I do not pretend to have all the answers and there is no one answer to anything in politics as every issue is multi-faceted but I will offer a few facts that might make one think of the cold war in a different light.

The liberals in FDR's administration wanted a New Deal first for America and secondly for the world. If you read their writings they clearly believed in wealth redistribution on a global scale. Secondly the W.W.II ended with US troops being stationed all over the world - a global presence. After the war many wanted to bring the troops home and scale down the military. While the military was scaled down some with our overseas bases "needed" we could never fully scale down.A few hot wars and we scaled back up. Supplying our army is profitable. Supplying allied armies is also profiablte as is supplying arms to revolutionary groups fighting communism. Ubiquitous soviet agents in our government and defense industries got our military secretes to the Russians and because of national security we had to develop newer weapons systems to stay ahead of them (now the Chinese have our secrets, given to them by traiterous agents in our midst). Arms races are very profitable for some well connected people you know.

What I am saying is in the name of national security and fighting communism conservatives accepted large government, high taxes, corporate-government ventures, redistribution of wealth globally and a host of other things conservatives of old would never have tolerated. Bill Buckley said that in order to fight communism abroad we need to accept some socialism at home. Fast forward 50-60 years and conservatives are proud of these historic "achievements" and wish to "conserve" these things. Now to today's foreign policy - anything and everything could be described as a vital national interest or necessary to national defense - even half a world away and we gladly accept it if a Republican says so . Certain segments of conservatives openly call for global US hegemony, creative destruction and in numerous cases are writing articles saying imperialism isn't a dirty word that American should blush at. All these things mean continuous war and they have popular support. The world against terrorism is said to be something that will last longer than our life times - a new cold war if you will. Reading the papers daily one can see this if one wants to see it. Everything I laid out is fact. Draw your own conclusions. Mine is that conservatives have been led by wolves in sheeps clothing.

233 posted on 07/11/2003 12:14:45 PM PDT by u-89
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To: u-89
Ever wonder why we never tried to win it and why the Dems and the establishment GOP got so upset when Reagan really did want to actually win?

Hmmmmmm, so now that President Bush really wants to win, why do you get so upset? ;-)

293 posted on 07/12/2003 10:57:52 AM PDT by Smile-n-Win (It is the nature of evil to self-destruct--but the number of good that get killed is up to the good.)
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