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To: budwiesest
I doubt privacy is as important as the liberty being exercised in determining the legitimatcy of any act and specifically, acts that don't 'harm' others in some deliberate manner.

I agree, the SCOTUS majority made it clear that for homosexual acts to be illegal it "demeaned" "homosexual" persons. [I use " around "homosexual" because there is no actual class of people who are homosexual. It is a type of act that can be engaged in or not, willingly.] Definitely moral value judgement there. And if a person with an open mind studies up on what homosexuals do, with whom, how many, under what circumstances, how much more prone they are to molest/rape/seduce the young, and the MANY disease they spread, it's no contest. There is a reason sodomy has been illegal and considered morally wrong throughout history (with some notable exceptions).

And now the arrogant justices are telling us that they are the moral arbiters. Knowledge stolen by illusion.

78 posted on 07/10/2003 11:28:53 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: pram
>> "And now the arrogant justices are telling us that they are the moral arbiters."

According to this article, the Kennedy argument is NOT a moral argument at all, but a "liberty" argument. One could say that the Kennedy line of thinking abandons moral judgment altogether.

To me, it makes more sense to argue about the boundaries of liberty (which is very much part of the thinking of the founding fathers), then it does to argue about "privacy" which was dreamed up by some Supreme Court justices.

Also, I think that it is better for the Courts to NOT make judgments on morals. That should be done by the legislatures reflecting the greater views of the citizens.
87 posted on 07/11/2003 3:42:13 AM PDT by sd-joe
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To: pram
And now the arrogant justices are telling us that they are the moral arbiters.

I disagree. It would seem that have appointed themselves arbiters of liberty (which would have been nice a long time ago).

Lawmakers in states are still free to create laws as long as they can prove that in restricting certain liberties (thinking speed limits here) the individual who might otherwise wish to exercise it (say, 60mph in front of an elementary school) would, in doing so be expected to invariably cause harm to others.

97 posted on 07/11/2003 6:56:57 AM PDT by budwiesest
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