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To: mark502inf; DTA; joan
Well if Serbs can try their own war criminals then what is the purpose of the criminal court in the Hague?

If it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that this man did in fact kill civilians, then there is no other option except declaring him guilty and throwing him in prison for a very long time. Does the death sentence exist in Serbia? I know it used to.

I wonder, have the Kosovar Albanians made any attempt to try their own people the way the Serbs have?

Also, of the hundreds of Serbs tried in their own country, would anyone happen to know how many were actually convicted?

17 posted on 07/10/2003 3:37:52 PM PDT by Seselj
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To: Seselj
Well if Serbs can try their own war criminals then what is the purpose of the criminal court in the Hague?

Does anybody know if any of the Serbs facing trial at the ICTY were charged by Serbian courts first?

18 posted on 07/10/2003 4:53:01 PM PDT by mark502inf
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To: Seselj
"If it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that this man did in fact kill civilians, then there is no other option except declaring him guilty and throwing him in prison for a very long time."

http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/story.jsp?story=423505:

"Mr Cvjetan denies all charges, saying he arrived after the shootings. The children say he was there, although they gave conflicting details."

If this is true, and he arrived after the shootings, then that could be why the children say he looks familiar. In another article (http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20030710.urefu0710/BNStory/National/): "Mr. Cvjetan claimed last fall that he was set up, after hearing gunfire and then finding the bodies." Good questions might be: When he says he found the bodies, was anybody else there? Was it him who alerted the authorities or did others find the scene on their own? If he was the one who reported this, and if those he reported to confirm they learned from him, then it doesn't appear likely he was involved in the killings. For why would he report right away on it if he wanted the people dead? Also, was he still there when those who rescued them - described in reports as "Serb men", a Serb police doctor, the Yugoslav army (and all three could be essentially correct) - was he still there? I wonder they or their reports have to say about Sasa Cvjetan, if anything at all.

And what about the children giving "conflicting details" - seems they can't get the story quite straight. Perhaps it was Natasa Kandic and others who are manipulating the tragedy to get an innocent man convicted in order to blame Serbs - tried to squeeze him in to being there during the shooting and not after, etc. And they have his name handy because he reported/witnessed hearing shooting and then finding the bodies. Having a Serb name, even if he is innocent, would lend some legitimacy to propaganda.

"Soldiers from the Yugoslav army arrived later and took the survivors for medical treatment in Pristina and Belgrade."

The Yugoslav army was under the command of Milosevic, and if they rescued the survivors, this doesn't show any attempt of coverup or guilt and arriving later shows they weren't there when it happened.

20 posted on 07/10/2003 5:08:11 PM PDT by joan
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