[TheCrusader]

"And, of course, The Crusader believes that not just Luther screwed up by pointing to women's childbearing role, but Paul did as well: "But women will be saved through childbearing--if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propiety." (1 Tim. 2:15)"

I've seen a few replies that weakly defend a couple of Luther's quotes I posted, but nobody has dared tackle his quotes on the Jews yet. He wrote violently against the Jews, not even restaining his desire to have them killed. Any takers? Ok, if you're too shy, then at least take on his stirring up the Peasant Uprising against the Royalty, and then switching sides and going with the Prices, whom he asked to "strangle the peasants". This should be interesting.

[Colofornian]

but nobody has dared tackle his quotes on the Jews yet.

See my post #28.

If Truman said derogatory things about Jews in his diary, as is now being reported, that's one thing. If Truman said those things and then repented, that's another. Luther repented.

Just like you should repent about him being a madman. After all, if you are indeed in Christ, you'll be living w/him for eternity. As the Psalmist says, how pleasant it is when brothers dwell together in unity.

[Drawsing]

I believe someone did respond to the antisemitic quotes by pointing out that Luther had apologized for them. Also Luther did not start the Lutheran church...some of his followers did. I doubt he would have approved such a thing.

One more point... "church" or ekklesia simply means a group of people identified by their allegiance to some cause. I believe there would be a lot more of the unity that Jesus prayed about if people would simply think of themselves as belonging to the group of people or "church" who believe in Jesus and live by his teachings. You can enjoy a lot more fellowship that way!

[rwfromkansas]

Hey, people sin.

Furthermore, at that time, it was believed that the state had a role to destroy false religions. You could virtually talk to anyone and they would say this.

No doubt many Catholics would have said what Luther did as well. Yet you act like it is a novel statement.

The fact is, Calvin's Geneva was a haven for Jews fleeing Catholic Europe. It should make you wonder how that rigid man's city could become a haven for unbelievers.