[hoosiermama]

The only thing we don't agree on is I think the plot is larger than to weaken Bush. I think it's "socialist" against democracy. I do believe if we could combine parts of BIAS with SLANDER and TREASON. We'd see the entire picture.

"MY hats bigger than YOUR hat!"

[piasa]

I agree; the goal is to damage the United States itself for the benefit of internationalists who believe the sovereignity of the US is a stumbling block to their agenda. Rockefeller is an internationalist. So is Gore Vidal, Hillary, etc. They feel closer in spirit to Havana than to the fifty states. They have a lot in common with islamicists, who also want a form of internationalism, albeit under a theocracy. The leadership of the islamicists, and their western followers, never forget, frequently attended the same universities the western left inhabit. Whatever differences there are, they have a common interest in bringing down the US and fitting it with the yoke of "international concensus," to be used as their personal draft animal and milk cow in forwarding an international socialist agenda.