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Biology textbook hearings prompt science disputes [Texas]
Knight Ridder Newspapers ^ | 08 July 2003 | MATT FRAZIER

Posted on 07/09/2003 12:08:32 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

FORT WORTH, Texas - (KRT) -
The long-running debate over the origins of mankind continues Wednesday before the Texas State Board of Education, and the result could change the way science is taught here and across the nation.

Local and out-of-state lobbying groups will try to convince the board that the next generation of biology books should contain new scientific evidence that reportedly pokes holes in Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.

Many of those groups say that they are not pushing to place a divine creator back into science books, but to show that Darwin's theory is far from a perfect explanation of the origin of mankind.

"It has become a battle ground," said Eugenie Scott, executive director of theNational Center of Science Education, which is dedicated to defending the teaching of evolution in the classroom.

Almost 45 scientists, educators and special interest groups from across the state will testify at the state's first public hearing this year on the next generation of textbooks for the courses of biology, family and career studies and English as a Second Language.

Approved textbooks will be available for classrooms for the 2004-05 school year. And because Texas is the second largest textbook buyer in the nation, the outcome could affect education nationwide.

The Texas Freedom Network and a handful of educators held a conference call last week to warn that conservative Christians and special interest organizations will try to twist textbook content to further their own views.

"We are seeing the wave of the future of religious right's attack on basic scientific principles," said Samantha Smoot, executive director of the network, an anti-censorship group and opponent of the radical right.

Those named by the network disagree with the claim, including the Discovery Institute and its Science and Culture Center of Seattle.

"Instead of wasting time looking at motivations, we wish people would look at the facts," said John West, associate director of the center.

"Our goal nationally is to encourage schools and educators to include more about evolution, including controversies about various parts of Darwinian theory that exists between even evolutionary scientists," West said. "We are a secular think tank."

The institute also is perhaps the nation's leading proponent of intelligent design - the idea that life is too complex to have occurred without the help of an unknown, intelligent being.

It pushed this view through grants to teachers and scientists, including Michael J. Behe, professor of biological sciences at Lehigh University in Pennsylvania. The Institute receives millions of dollars from philanthropists and foundations dedicated to discrediting Darwin's theory.

The center sent the state board a 55-page report that graded 11 high school biology textbooks submitted for adoption. None earned a grade above a C minus. The report also includes four arguments it says show that evolutionary theory is not as solid as presented in biology textbooks.

Discovery Institute Fellow Raymond Bohlin, who also is executive director of Probe Ministries, based in Richardson, Texas, will deliver that message in person Wednesday before the State Board of Education. Bohlin has a doctorate degree in molecular cell biology from the University of Texas at Dallas.

"If we can simply allow students to see that evolution is not an established fact, that leaves freedom for students to pursue other ideas," Bohlin said. "All I can do is continue to point these things out and hopefully get a group that hears and sees relevant data and insist on some changes."

The executive director of Texas Citizens for Science, Steven Schafersman, calls the institute's information "pseudoscience nonsense." Schafersman is an evolutionary scientist who, for more than two decades, taught biology, geology, paleontology and environmental science at a number of universities, including the University of Houston and the University of Texas of the Permian Basin.

"It sounds plausible to people who are not scientifically informed," Schafersman said. "But they are fraudulently trying to deceive board members. They might succeed, but it will be over the public protests of scientists."

The last time Texas looked at biology books, in 1997, the State Board of Education considered replacing them all with new ones that did not mention evolution. The board voted down the proposal by a slim margin.

The state requires that evolution be in textbooks. But arguments against evolution have been successful over the last decade in other states. Alabama, New Mexico and Nebraska made changes that, to varying degrees, challenge the pre-eminence of evolution in the scientific curriculum.

In 1999, the Kansas Board of Education voted to wash the concepts of evolution from the state's science curricula. A new state board has since put evolution back in. Last year, the Cobb County school board in Georgia voted to include creationism in science classes.

Texas education requirements demand that textbooks include arguments for and against evolution, said Neal Frey, an analyst working with perhaps Texas' most famous textbook reviewers, Mel and Norma Gabler.

The Gablers, of Longview, have been reviewing Texas textbooks for almost four decades. They describe themselves as conservative Christians. Some of their priorities include making sure textbooks include scientific flaws in arguments for evolution.

"None of the texts truly conform to the state's requirements that the strengths and weaknesses of scientific theories be presented to students," Frey said.

The Texas textbook proclamation of 2001, which is part of the standard for the state's curriculum, Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills, requires that biology textbooks instruct students so they may "analyze, review and critique scientific explanations, including hypotheses and theories, as to their strengths and weakness using scientific evidence and information."

The state board is empowered to reject books only for factual errors or for not meeting the state's curriculum requirements. If speakers convince the state board that their evidence is scientifically sound, members may see little choice but to demand its presence in schoolbooks.

Proposed books already have been reviewed and approved by Texas Tech University. After a public hearing Wednesday and another Sept. 10, the state board is scheduled to adopt the new textbooks in November.

Satisfying the state board is only half the battle for textbook publishers. Individual school districts choose which books to use and are reimbursed by the state unless they buy texts rejected by the state board.

Districts can opt not to use books with passages they find objectionable. So when speakers at the public hearings criticize what they perceived as flaws in various books - such as failing to portray the United States or Christianity in a positive light - many publishers listen.

New books will be distributed next summer.

State Board member Terri Leo said the Discovery Institute works with esteemed scientists and that their evidence should be heard.

"You cannot teach students how to think if you don't present both sides of a scientific issue," Leo said. "Wouldn't you think that the body that has the responsibility of what's in the classroom would look at all scientific arguments?"

State board member Bob Craig said he had heard of the Intelligent Design theory.

"I'm going in with an open mind about everybody's presentation," Craig said. "I need to hear their presentation before I make any decisions or comments.

State board member Mary Helen Berlanga said she wanted to hear from local scientists.

"If we are going to discuss scientific information in the textbooks, the discussion will have to remain scientific," Berlanga said. "I'd like to hear from some of our scientists in the field on the subject."


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To: exmarine
When you get a sec, please help me understand the book of Revelations. It's not as clear cut as Genesis, and I need help. Cause Phony "dr" Kent Hovind tells me this:

"In my seminar I show that the guard bars used at the beginning, middle and end of the UPC codes is the exact same pattern used for the number 6. I don't know what the mark of the beast is or will be but it seems to me that the UPC code is indeed a part of the prophecy in Rev. 13 and 14.]"

How some people fail to realize the inanity of reading certain OT passages literally, and other books in such a far fetched wacked out way as the above paragraph shows, will perplex me for the rest of my days.
861 posted on 07/10/2003 11:22:50 AM PDT by whattajoke
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To: PatrickHenry
We are seeing the wave of the future of religious right's attack on basic scientific principles," said Samantha Smoot, executive director of the network, an anti-censorship group and opponent of the radical right.

I find it interesting that a group battling to keep information OUT of a classroom would bill itself as "anti-censorship". But, then again, they are leftists.

862 posted on 07/10/2003 11:23:18 AM PDT by Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
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To: Stultis
On the 19th of August we finally left the shores of Brazil. I thank God, I shall never again visit a slave-country. To this day, if I hear a distant scream, it recalls with painful vividness my feelings, when passing a house near Pernambuco, I heard the most pitiable moans, and could not but suspect that some poor slave was being tortured, yet knew that I was as powerless as a child even to remonstrate. I suspected that these moans were from a tortured slave, for I was told that this was the case in another instance. Near Rio de Janeiro I lived opposite to an old lady, who kept screws to crush the fingers of her female slaves. I have stayed in a house where a young household mulatto, daily and hourly, was reviled, beaten, and persecuted enough to break the spirit of the lowest animal. I have seen a little boy, six or seven years old, struck thrice with a horse-whip (before I could interfere) on his naked head, for having handed me a glass of water not quite clean; I saw his father tremble at a mere glance from his master's eye. These latter cruelties were witnessed by me in a Spanish colony, in which it has always been said that slaves are better treated than by the Portuguese, English, or other European nations. I have seen at Rio de Janeiro a powerful negro afraid to ward off a blow directed, as he thought, at his face. I was present when a kind-hearted man was on the point of separating forever the men, women, and little children of a large number of families who had long lived together. I will not even allude to the many heart-sickening atrocities which I authentically heard of;—nor would I have mentioned the above revolting details, had I not met with several people, so blinded by the constitutional gaiety of the negro as to speak of slavery as a tolerable evil. Such people have generally visited at the houses of the upper classes, where the domestic slaves are usually well treated, and they have not, like myself, lived amongst the lower classes. Such inquirers will ask
You really don't need to post this. Goodseed has read Darwin and knew these were his sentiments when she called him a layabout racist.
863 posted on 07/10/2003 11:24:48 AM PDT by js1138
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To: kegler4
So you have a mandate to determine which churches are REALLY Christian? Rather sanctimonious of you don't you think?

I have to use my discernment in this area when joining a church. If a church does not take the bible seriously, I don't take that church seriously, as such a church has no basis for their beliefs other than themselves. Is that sanctimonious of me? No. Let me ask you something: Do you view all bible-believing Christians as holier-than-though and self-righteous types? If you do, then isn't that an exercise in biased stereotyping?

864 posted on 07/10/2003 11:25:42 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: Condorman
Not to mention the Laura Callahan flap over fake degrees.
865 posted on 07/10/2003 11:27:36 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: CobaltBlue; HalfFull
After all, slavery is sanctioned in the Bible

Have you ever read the Bible? Do you know anything about the Roman slave class?

Using the Bible to justify slavery is not equivalent to the Bible-sanctioned slavery. Capturing people to sell into slavery is prohibited in the Bible. Like I said, you'd have to know a little about the Roman slave class in order to understand the NT comments about slavery. It was little like the Arabic/European slave trade which was manifested in the colonies.

It was, of course, Christian men who worked to abolish the slave trade like Wilberforce and Lincoln.

866 posted on 07/10/2003 11:28:46 AM PDT by Dataman
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To: exmarine
The problem is that the govt has also violated the Establishment Clause by embracing atheism as the national religion - another Constitutional violation.

Religion // science NAZIS --- SS evolutionbots !

867 posted on 07/10/2003 11:32:51 AM PDT by f.Christian (( bring it on ... crybabies // bullies - wimps - camp guards for darwin - marx - satan ))
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To: Right Wing Professor
THE book I give to the public, is not made up of isolated articles. It is one harmonious demonstration that slavery is part of the government ordained in certain conditions of fallen mankind. I present the subject in the form of speeches, actually delivered, and letters written just as published. I adopt this method to make a readable book. I give it to the North and South-to gain harmony among Christians, and to secure the integrity of the union of this great people. This harmony and union can be preserved only by the view presented in this volume,-i.e. that slavery is of God, and to continue for the good of the slave, the good of the master, the good of the whole American family, until another and better destiny may be unfolded. The one great idea, which I submit to North and South, is expressed in the speech, first in order, delivered in the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church, Buffalo, May 27, 1853 Gosh, that looks like a written declaration presented in a church with the blessing of the congregation. The Northern and Southern Presbyterian churches did split over this and were not reconciled until somewhere around 1990 (give or take a few years). I can recall voting on the reconcilliation.
868 posted on 07/10/2003 11:32:58 AM PDT by js1138
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To: exmarine
Again, what does your worldview predict for the microwave background?
869 posted on 07/10/2003 11:34:46 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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Troll-avoiding P L A C E M A R K E R
870 posted on 07/10/2003 11:35:13 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: whattajoke
"In my seminar I show that the guard bars used at the beginning, middle and end of the UPC codes is the exact same pattern used for the number 6. I don't know what the mark of the beast is or will be but it seems to me that the UPC code is indeed a part of the prophecy in Rev. 13 and 14.]"

If Kent Hovind says this or that, should we all take it as fact or check it out?

How some people fail to realize the inanity of reading certain OT passages literally, and other books in such a far fetched wacked out way as the above paragraph shows, will perplex me for the rest of my days.

I think you are confused about the use of the term "literal." Literal merely means that you interpret a passage in the context and meaning AS THE WRITER INTENDED. Therefore, if a writer meant a metaphorical context, then that is how it should be interpreted (Jesus said, "I am the gate" - did He mean he was literally a gate - NO); if the wroter meant it symbollically, as much of Revelation is, then it should be interpreted symbollically; if the writer meant it literally (e.g. "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth"), then literally. Clear?

871 posted on 07/10/2003 11:35:15 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: MEGoody
Are you claiming that the theory of evolution was first proposed based upon examination of a series of fossils? If so, could you please let us know who that first theorist was and what fossils he/she examined?

Evolution was widely assumed, based on fossils, long before Darwin. Common descent was Darwin's contribution. Prior to "Origin" evolution was assumed to have taken place via special creation, a form of ID.

872 posted on 07/10/2003 11:37:01 AM PDT by js1138
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To: exmarine
The problem is that the govt has also violated the Establishment Clause by embracing atheism as the national religion - another Constitutional violation.

Religion // science NAZIS --- SS evolutionbots !

The Mother of ALL constitutional violations !

873 posted on 07/10/2003 11:37:59 AM PDT by f.Christian (( bring it on ... crybabies // bullies - wimps - camp guards for darwin - marx - satan ))
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To: exmarine
Clear?

Yes. It's clear you should be more famous than you are for in your posts to me you evidently can determine the mind of God, since it was He who guided the bible writers' hands minds, correct?

It's also clear that you can determine what constitutes "real churches" and "real christians" in your posts to js1138.

You, sir, are to be lauded and should get the recognition you deserve. Congrats. (I was gonna write, "kudos," but IIRC, RWP (I think) explained the fallacy of that term : )
874 posted on 07/10/2003 11:41:27 AM PDT by whattajoke
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To: exmarine
I do believe you should be allowed to send your children to the school of your choice. I have no problem with vouchers going to church supported schools. Just as long as the schools I choose to send my kids to are allowed to tesch science.
875 posted on 07/10/2003 11:41:35 AM PDT by js1138
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To: Dataman
With respect to abolition of the enslavement of black African slaves and their descendents, there were Christians working for and against that issue.

With respect to slavery in the Old Testament, the Jews did have slaves.

Cursed be Canaan; a slave of slaves shall he be to his brothers.(Gen 9: 27)

Exodus 21

1 "Now these are the (1) ordinances which you are to set before them:
2 "If you buy (2) a Hebrew slave, he shall serve for six years; but on the seventh he shall go out as a free man without payment.
3 "If he comes alone, he shall go out alone; if he is the husband of a wife, then his wife shall go out with him.
4 "If his master gives him a wife, and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall belong to her master, and he shall go out alone.
5 "But (3) if the slave plainly says, 'I love my master, my wife and my children; I will not go out as a free man,'
6 then his master shall bring him to [1] God, then he shall bring him to the door or the doorpost. And his master shall pierce his ear with an awl; and he shall serve him permanently.
7 "(4) If a man sells his daughter as a female slave, she is not to go free (5) as the male slaves do.
8 "If she is displeasing in the eyes of her master who designated her for himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He does not have authority to sell her to a foreign people because of his unfairness to her.
9 "If he designates her for his son, he shall deal with her according to the custom of daughters.
10 "If he takes to himself another woman, he may not reduce her food, her clothing, or (6) her conjugal rights.
11 "If he will not do these three things for her, then she shall go out for nothing, without payment of money.
876 posted on 07/10/2003 11:42:11 AM PDT by CobaltBlue (Never voted for a Democrat in my life.)
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To: exmarine
No, that is what YOU would conclude from your naturalist presuppositions which tell you that science has nothing whatsoever to do with God.

Are you saying then that God is entirely within the bounds of the natural universe?
877 posted on 07/10/2003 11:44:26 AM PDT by Dimensio (Sometimes I doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion!)
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To: whattajoke
Kent Hovind tells me this:

"In my seminar I show that the guard bars used at the beginning, middle and end of the UPC codes is the exact same pattern used for the number 6. I don't know what the mark of the beast is or will be but it seems to me that the UPC code is indeed a part of the prophecy in Rev. 13 and 14.]"

But he's a really nice person.

878 posted on 07/10/2003 11:48:10 AM PDT by js1138
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Again, what does your worldview predict for the microwave background?

What can be absolutely proven from this background radiation? I don't know. Could God have used some sort of Big Bang to create the universe and all in it in 6 days? If He is God, He certainly could. Does my worldview require that I have a prediction on every scientific issue. No. My worldview is predicated upon a Creator-God, but there is no contradiction if I am unable to give explanations for every single discovery. All worldviews rely on the belief that all reality will conform to the worldview. That is precisely the philosophical premise on which the greatest scientific discoveries in history were made (Newton, Kepler, Copernicus, etc.). Darwinists do the same thing. Neodarwinists also act according to their worldview first premises. All people do.

879 posted on 07/10/2003 11:48:20 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: CobaltBlue
I am aware of the passages you quote. What you are likely not aware is that slavery was often a chosen "profession" in that Jews sold themselves into slavery in a similar manner to that of indentured servants.
880 posted on 07/10/2003 11:48:46 AM PDT by Dataman
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