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Biology textbook hearings prompt science disputes [Texas]
Knight Ridder Newspapers ^ | 08 July 2003 | MATT FRAZIER

Posted on 07/09/2003 12:08:32 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

FORT WORTH, Texas - (KRT) -
The long-running debate over the origins of mankind continues Wednesday before the Texas State Board of Education, and the result could change the way science is taught here and across the nation.

Local and out-of-state lobbying groups will try to convince the board that the next generation of biology books should contain new scientific evidence that reportedly pokes holes in Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.

Many of those groups say that they are not pushing to place a divine creator back into science books, but to show that Darwin's theory is far from a perfect explanation of the origin of mankind.

"It has become a battle ground," said Eugenie Scott, executive director of theNational Center of Science Education, which is dedicated to defending the teaching of evolution in the classroom.

Almost 45 scientists, educators and special interest groups from across the state will testify at the state's first public hearing this year on the next generation of textbooks for the courses of biology, family and career studies and English as a Second Language.

Approved textbooks will be available for classrooms for the 2004-05 school year. And because Texas is the second largest textbook buyer in the nation, the outcome could affect education nationwide.

The Texas Freedom Network and a handful of educators held a conference call last week to warn that conservative Christians and special interest organizations will try to twist textbook content to further their own views.

"We are seeing the wave of the future of religious right's attack on basic scientific principles," said Samantha Smoot, executive director of the network, an anti-censorship group and opponent of the radical right.

Those named by the network disagree with the claim, including the Discovery Institute and its Science and Culture Center of Seattle.

"Instead of wasting time looking at motivations, we wish people would look at the facts," said John West, associate director of the center.

"Our goal nationally is to encourage schools and educators to include more about evolution, including controversies about various parts of Darwinian theory that exists between even evolutionary scientists," West said. "We are a secular think tank."

The institute also is perhaps the nation's leading proponent of intelligent design - the idea that life is too complex to have occurred without the help of an unknown, intelligent being.

It pushed this view through grants to teachers and scientists, including Michael J. Behe, professor of biological sciences at Lehigh University in Pennsylvania. The Institute receives millions of dollars from philanthropists and foundations dedicated to discrediting Darwin's theory.

The center sent the state board a 55-page report that graded 11 high school biology textbooks submitted for adoption. None earned a grade above a C minus. The report also includes four arguments it says show that evolutionary theory is not as solid as presented in biology textbooks.

Discovery Institute Fellow Raymond Bohlin, who also is executive director of Probe Ministries, based in Richardson, Texas, will deliver that message in person Wednesday before the State Board of Education. Bohlin has a doctorate degree in molecular cell biology from the University of Texas at Dallas.

"If we can simply allow students to see that evolution is not an established fact, that leaves freedom for students to pursue other ideas," Bohlin said. "All I can do is continue to point these things out and hopefully get a group that hears and sees relevant data and insist on some changes."

The executive director of Texas Citizens for Science, Steven Schafersman, calls the institute's information "pseudoscience nonsense." Schafersman is an evolutionary scientist who, for more than two decades, taught biology, geology, paleontology and environmental science at a number of universities, including the University of Houston and the University of Texas of the Permian Basin.

"It sounds plausible to people who are not scientifically informed," Schafersman said. "But they are fraudulently trying to deceive board members. They might succeed, but it will be over the public protests of scientists."

The last time Texas looked at biology books, in 1997, the State Board of Education considered replacing them all with new ones that did not mention evolution. The board voted down the proposal by a slim margin.

The state requires that evolution be in textbooks. But arguments against evolution have been successful over the last decade in other states. Alabama, New Mexico and Nebraska made changes that, to varying degrees, challenge the pre-eminence of evolution in the scientific curriculum.

In 1999, the Kansas Board of Education voted to wash the concepts of evolution from the state's science curricula. A new state board has since put evolution back in. Last year, the Cobb County school board in Georgia voted to include creationism in science classes.

Texas education requirements demand that textbooks include arguments for and against evolution, said Neal Frey, an analyst working with perhaps Texas' most famous textbook reviewers, Mel and Norma Gabler.

The Gablers, of Longview, have been reviewing Texas textbooks for almost four decades. They describe themselves as conservative Christians. Some of their priorities include making sure textbooks include scientific flaws in arguments for evolution.

"None of the texts truly conform to the state's requirements that the strengths and weaknesses of scientific theories be presented to students," Frey said.

The Texas textbook proclamation of 2001, which is part of the standard for the state's curriculum, Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills, requires that biology textbooks instruct students so they may "analyze, review and critique scientific explanations, including hypotheses and theories, as to their strengths and weakness using scientific evidence and information."

The state board is empowered to reject books only for factual errors or for not meeting the state's curriculum requirements. If speakers convince the state board that their evidence is scientifically sound, members may see little choice but to demand its presence in schoolbooks.

Proposed books already have been reviewed and approved by Texas Tech University. After a public hearing Wednesday and another Sept. 10, the state board is scheduled to adopt the new textbooks in November.

Satisfying the state board is only half the battle for textbook publishers. Individual school districts choose which books to use and are reimbursed by the state unless they buy texts rejected by the state board.

Districts can opt not to use books with passages they find objectionable. So when speakers at the public hearings criticize what they perceived as flaws in various books - such as failing to portray the United States or Christianity in a positive light - many publishers listen.

New books will be distributed next summer.

State Board member Terri Leo said the Discovery Institute works with esteemed scientists and that their evidence should be heard.

"You cannot teach students how to think if you don't present both sides of a scientific issue," Leo said. "Wouldn't you think that the body that has the responsibility of what's in the classroom would look at all scientific arguments?"

State board member Bob Craig said he had heard of the Intelligent Design theory.

"I'm going in with an open mind about everybody's presentation," Craig said. "I need to hear their presentation before I make any decisions or comments.

State board member Mary Helen Berlanga said she wanted to hear from local scientists.

"If we are going to discuss scientific information in the textbooks, the discussion will have to remain scientific," Berlanga said. "I'd like to hear from some of our scientists in the field on the subject."


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To: AndrewC
Are the quotes fictitious, or is it a question of viewpoint?

A reasonable question. If you cn bear looking back over the last couple hundred posts, you will find copious material written by Darwin, from 1833 on, that shows he was consistently anti-slavery, was proud of England for leading the anti-slavery movement, supported the North in the Civil War, and wrote extensively of his personal observation of cruelty to slaves.

Balanced against that we have marxists and Nazis attempting to gain respectibility by hitching on the coattails of science. If you look back a bit on this thread you will see how Hitler tried to justify the murder of Jews by asserting he was just completing the unfinished business of Christ.

What difference does it make whether the quotes from Nazis and communists are authentic quotes? Does anyone think they were genuinely interested in either science or the teachings of Jesus?

2,881 posted on 07/15/2003 12:23:33 PM PDT by js1138
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To: bondserv
At the end of the Ice Age there were several massive, quick water releases as ice dams broke on the ice cap. Three of them were so large as to raise the ocean level 100 feet in a matter of days. It would be no big trick for such a flow to pile up sediment along a valley leading from the glacier, and do it quickly.
2,882 posted on 07/15/2003 12:24:06 PM PDT by RightWhale (gazing at shadows)
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To: js1138; Stultis; VadeRetro; Piltdown_Woman
And how long for that mud to turn to stone? I always thought this was a legitimate line of research for creationists, determining by experiment how long it takes for stone to form from sediment and for organic materials to fossilize.

The mounded dirt differs from the jagged rock of the mountains. It appears to be compacted dried dirt/mud. The mountains along that valley range from 5000 to 8500 feet.

The opposite side of the valley has normal Alluvial fan erosion patterns, and doesn't have the mound of dirt pushed against the range. As the valley turns on the low side the mound moves higher up the range as if this was a turning point for the runoff of 5000 foot deep water.

2,883 posted on 07/15/2003 12:25:25 PM PDT by bondserv (Alignment is critical.)
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To: js1138; Stultis; VadeRetro; Piltdown_Woman
And how long for that mud to turn to stone? I always thought this was a legitimate line of research for creationists, determining by experiment how long it takes for stone to form from sediment and for organic materials to fossilize.

The mounded dirt differs from the jagged rock of the mountains. It appears to be compacted dried dirt/mud. The mountains along that valley range from 5000 to 8500 feet.

The opposite side of the valley has normal Alluvial fan erosion patterns, and doesn't have the mound of dirt pushed against the range. As the valley turns on the low side the mound moves higher up the range as if this was a turning point for the runoff of 5000 foot deep water.

2,884 posted on 07/15/2003 12:25:26 PM PDT by bondserv (Alignment is critical.)
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To: RightWhale
Guess who ...

Free Republic was never intended to be a liberal debating society. It has a purpose and goals. The long term goal is to promote the cause of conservatism and to work for a return to the constitutionally limited republican form of government as established by our founders. If these are not your goals then I don't want you here. I am defending my first amendment right to freedom of association. I only want to associate myself and FR with people who will work with me to achieve my goals.

2,885 posted on 07/15/2003 12:26:12 PM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- architecture !)
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To: js1138
more ...

Argue for constitutionally limited government all you want. That's what we're ALL doing here. But join in with the liberal/marxist/communist Democrats? Never! That's where I draw the line.

2,886 posted on 07/15/2003 12:30:32 PM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- architecture !)
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To: PatrickHenry
more ...

Well, until the Knight in Shining Armor * makes the scene, I suggest we try to make do with mere mortals despite all their failings. Only, I hope the mortals elected uphold at least the mimimum Republican standards vs the evil abortionist/homosexual dogma of the Democrats.

mine ...

... * ... science - technology3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- architecture !

2,887 posted on 07/15/2003 12:35:47 PM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- architecture !)
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To: f.Christian
Liberals - evos are going to be 6 way blindsided --- SMASHED !

Evolution and liberalism is an urban legend popular among the unscientific who don't know a theory from fact !

Real science is coming ... designeduniverse.com --- evolution and liberalism are frauds perpetuated by the ignorant - intellectually destitute -- BANKRUPT !

Just reading the Bible the founding fathers plainly knew this beast would arrive and cover - tyrannize the nation but we would have to deal with it ... so we are -- will !

designeduniverse.com ... the obituary of liberalism - evolution penned by freepers ...

yours truly (( soon )) !

2,888 posted on 07/15/2003 12:38:55 PM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- architecture !)
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To: Stultis
Thanks for the link to the database. I have the Desmond and Moore book, and have the cited pages scanned. I will post them later tonight.
2,889 posted on 07/15/2003 12:40:26 PM PDT by js1138
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Hopefully, you're not going to have to rely upon your kids to support you in old age, because I doubt they'll be able to afford it on their level of pay.

I can only point to homeschoolers (most of whom are CHRISTIANS) who outperform (i.e. clobber)your atheist-indoctrined govt. schoolers in every category. I think you should worry about your govt schooled kids.

2,890 posted on 07/15/2003 12:45:35 PM PDT by exmarine
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To: Stultis
Their search engine doesn't seem to be ready for text searches yet.
2,891 posted on 07/15/2003 12:46:02 PM PDT by js1138
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To: Aric2000
Science is NOT atheistic, and neither is Evolution.

What can I say to someone who believes this.

2,892 posted on 07/15/2003 12:47:23 PM PDT by exmarine
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To: js1138
What difference does it make whether the quotes from Nazis and communists are authentic quotes? Does anyone think they were genuinely interested in either science or the teachings of Jesus?

I don't believe it is either the communists or the nazis that are being called a liar, but I may be wrong.

2,893 posted on 07/15/2003 12:48:55 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: Stultis
Well, some states have standards for curricula or textbooks -- e.g. Texas' "Proclamation," to make a passing reference to the thread topic :) -- and these may have force of law, but the ONLY time I'm aware of evolution EVER being mandated by actual legislation, it was in a law advocated and defended by creationists. The "equal time" law passed in Arkansas, and later overturned by the courts, mandated that "creation science" must be taught if "evolution science" is taught, and vice versa.

It's mandated indirectly by disallowing creationism. Since evolution and creation are the ONLY two viable options for origins of the universe and life, evolution wins by merely EXCLUDING creationism.

2,894 posted on 07/15/2003 12:49:42 PM PDT by exmarine
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Oh boy. I can see the teams lined up now for the Crevo Bowl: Saints vs Devils. But wait, those names are already being used.

I do believe, as Henry ford proved, that ordinary success does not require much book larnin'. Creationists and their children do not need to fear starvation.

I would prefer having school choice. That is one of the things most FReepers can agree on.

2,895 posted on 07/15/2003 12:52:47 PM PDT by js1138
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To: exmarine
As to homeschooling, been there, did that, have the materials to show for it. K through 3rd grade.

Really disliked the other people doing it at our cottage school. Saw the end result of what that particular program was turning out by the end of high school, and was really unimpressed. oh sure, they could go to bees and do the rote stuff, but they couldn't write their way out of a paper bag, nor were they particularly motivated. From my observations, the boys all wanted to be "net entrepeneurs" (because Lord knows they didn't want to have to wake up in the morning and be answerable to anyone), and the girls aspired to work in a day care prior to their marriages.

They had about as much get up and go as a 1983 Dodge Aries K.

2,896 posted on 07/15/2003 12:52:47 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Evolutionary theory is no more required by the government than teaching about the theory of gravity, relativity theory, quantum theory, astromony, geology, Lewis base theory, group theory, music theory, or the theory of equations.

Wrong. Evolutionary theory (speaks of origins) is protected by the exclusion of the only viable alternative.

2,897 posted on 07/15/2003 12:53:28 PM PDT by exmarine
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To: AndrewC
I don't believe it is either the communists or the nazis that are being called a liar, but I may be wrong.

Well just in case someone overlooked it, let me be the first to call them liars. ;^)

2,898 posted on 07/15/2003 12:55:15 PM PDT by js1138
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To: exmarine
The real reality - fear of evolution ...

they can't compete in the open market of ideas - thinking --- they are losers - frauds - charlatans - grifters from the get go and they know it ... but won't admit it .

Only forced science non thinking works for them ...

RETROGRADES - america too ... anything to have their way - fun with other people's mind - children --- SICKOS !
2,899 posted on 07/15/2003 12:55:58 PM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- architecture !)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
From my observations, the boys all wanted to be "net entrepeneurs"...

Do any of them by any chance own five websites and post on these threads?

2,900 posted on 07/15/2003 12:58:16 PM PDT by js1138
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