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Biology textbook hearings prompt science disputes [Texas]
Knight Ridder Newspapers ^ | 08 July 2003 | MATT FRAZIER

Posted on 07/09/2003 12:08:32 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

FORT WORTH, Texas - (KRT) -
The long-running debate over the origins of mankind continues Wednesday before the Texas State Board of Education, and the result could change the way science is taught here and across the nation.

Local and out-of-state lobbying groups will try to convince the board that the next generation of biology books should contain new scientific evidence that reportedly pokes holes in Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.

Many of those groups say that they are not pushing to place a divine creator back into science books, but to show that Darwin's theory is far from a perfect explanation of the origin of mankind.

"It has become a battle ground," said Eugenie Scott, executive director of theNational Center of Science Education, which is dedicated to defending the teaching of evolution in the classroom.

Almost 45 scientists, educators and special interest groups from across the state will testify at the state's first public hearing this year on the next generation of textbooks for the courses of biology, family and career studies and English as a Second Language.

Approved textbooks will be available for classrooms for the 2004-05 school year. And because Texas is the second largest textbook buyer in the nation, the outcome could affect education nationwide.

The Texas Freedom Network and a handful of educators held a conference call last week to warn that conservative Christians and special interest organizations will try to twist textbook content to further their own views.

"We are seeing the wave of the future of religious right's attack on basic scientific principles," said Samantha Smoot, executive director of the network, an anti-censorship group and opponent of the radical right.

Those named by the network disagree with the claim, including the Discovery Institute and its Science and Culture Center of Seattle.

"Instead of wasting time looking at motivations, we wish people would look at the facts," said John West, associate director of the center.

"Our goal nationally is to encourage schools and educators to include more about evolution, including controversies about various parts of Darwinian theory that exists between even evolutionary scientists," West said. "We are a secular think tank."

The institute also is perhaps the nation's leading proponent of intelligent design - the idea that life is too complex to have occurred without the help of an unknown, intelligent being.

It pushed this view through grants to teachers and scientists, including Michael J. Behe, professor of biological sciences at Lehigh University in Pennsylvania. The Institute receives millions of dollars from philanthropists and foundations dedicated to discrediting Darwin's theory.

The center sent the state board a 55-page report that graded 11 high school biology textbooks submitted for adoption. None earned a grade above a C minus. The report also includes four arguments it says show that evolutionary theory is not as solid as presented in biology textbooks.

Discovery Institute Fellow Raymond Bohlin, who also is executive director of Probe Ministries, based in Richardson, Texas, will deliver that message in person Wednesday before the State Board of Education. Bohlin has a doctorate degree in molecular cell biology from the University of Texas at Dallas.

"If we can simply allow students to see that evolution is not an established fact, that leaves freedom for students to pursue other ideas," Bohlin said. "All I can do is continue to point these things out and hopefully get a group that hears and sees relevant data and insist on some changes."

The executive director of Texas Citizens for Science, Steven Schafersman, calls the institute's information "pseudoscience nonsense." Schafersman is an evolutionary scientist who, for more than two decades, taught biology, geology, paleontology and environmental science at a number of universities, including the University of Houston and the University of Texas of the Permian Basin.

"It sounds plausible to people who are not scientifically informed," Schafersman said. "But they are fraudulently trying to deceive board members. They might succeed, but it will be over the public protests of scientists."

The last time Texas looked at biology books, in 1997, the State Board of Education considered replacing them all with new ones that did not mention evolution. The board voted down the proposal by a slim margin.

The state requires that evolution be in textbooks. But arguments against evolution have been successful over the last decade in other states. Alabama, New Mexico and Nebraska made changes that, to varying degrees, challenge the pre-eminence of evolution in the scientific curriculum.

In 1999, the Kansas Board of Education voted to wash the concepts of evolution from the state's science curricula. A new state board has since put evolution back in. Last year, the Cobb County school board in Georgia voted to include creationism in science classes.

Texas education requirements demand that textbooks include arguments for and against evolution, said Neal Frey, an analyst working with perhaps Texas' most famous textbook reviewers, Mel and Norma Gabler.

The Gablers, of Longview, have been reviewing Texas textbooks for almost four decades. They describe themselves as conservative Christians. Some of their priorities include making sure textbooks include scientific flaws in arguments for evolution.

"None of the texts truly conform to the state's requirements that the strengths and weaknesses of scientific theories be presented to students," Frey said.

The Texas textbook proclamation of 2001, which is part of the standard for the state's curriculum, Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills, requires that biology textbooks instruct students so they may "analyze, review and critique scientific explanations, including hypotheses and theories, as to their strengths and weakness using scientific evidence and information."

The state board is empowered to reject books only for factual errors or for not meeting the state's curriculum requirements. If speakers convince the state board that their evidence is scientifically sound, members may see little choice but to demand its presence in schoolbooks.

Proposed books already have been reviewed and approved by Texas Tech University. After a public hearing Wednesday and another Sept. 10, the state board is scheduled to adopt the new textbooks in November.

Satisfying the state board is only half the battle for textbook publishers. Individual school districts choose which books to use and are reimbursed by the state unless they buy texts rejected by the state board.

Districts can opt not to use books with passages they find objectionable. So when speakers at the public hearings criticize what they perceived as flaws in various books - such as failing to portray the United States or Christianity in a positive light - many publishers listen.

New books will be distributed next summer.

State Board member Terri Leo said the Discovery Institute works with esteemed scientists and that their evidence should be heard.

"You cannot teach students how to think if you don't present both sides of a scientific issue," Leo said. "Wouldn't you think that the body that has the responsibility of what's in the classroom would look at all scientific arguments?"

State board member Bob Craig said he had heard of the Intelligent Design theory.

"I'm going in with an open mind about everybody's presentation," Craig said. "I need to hear their presentation before I make any decisions or comments.

State board member Mary Helen Berlanga said she wanted to hear from local scientists.

"If we are going to discuss scientific information in the textbooks, the discussion will have to remain scientific," Berlanga said. "I'd like to hear from some of our scientists in the field on the subject."


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To: CobaltBlue
Gen 16:7-14

7 And the angel of the LORD found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness, by the fountain in the way to Shur.
8 And he said, Hagar, Sarai’s maid, whence camest thou? and whither wilt thou go? And she said, I flee from the face of my mistress Sarai.
9 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Return to thy mistress, and submit thyself under her hands.
10 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude.
11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.
12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man’s hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.
13 And she called the name of the LORD that spake unto her, Thou God seest me: for she said, Have I also here looked after him that seeth me?
14 Wherefore the well was called Beerlahairoi; behold, it is between Kadesh and Bered.

Notice in verse 10 He says "I will multiply thy seed exceedingly". This is revelation of personal divine power.

Then in verse 11 He speaks of the LORD in the second person. Not I have heard, but the LORD hath heard.

In verse 13 she acknowledges that she has looked at God. The NIV renders Gen 16:13 as:
13 She gave this name to the LORD who spoke to her: “You are the God who sees me,” for she said, “I have now seen the One who sees me.”

Clearly not the Father, which scripture teaches no man has seen the Father. No man includes woman.
1,841 posted on 07/13/2003 12:58:32 AM PDT by bondserv
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To: All
Been-Gone-Not-Long-Enough placemarker.

Liked Port Angeles, we'll be back.

Oly Penninsula has the tallest trees I've ever seen!

Lake Crescent/Elhwa River area must be heaven for boaters & fishermen.

Kalaloch Lodge is a nice rustic lodge, with the best beach. (But the thick-as-fog, ethereal ocean mist wafting in may have colored my opinion.)

Why is Ocean Shores such a dead place? It has so much potential. Is it because it's cold & windy too much of the year? And why aren't any of the restaurants (except the overpriced Shilo Inn restaurant) open past 8:30pm?

Hmmm, crabs really do look like trilobites. Now I wonder why that could possibly be?

I doubt Hoquiam/Aberdeen was pretty even when all the mills were operating. But all the iron silohuette sculptures in nearby Raymond are a delightful touch.

There is logging going on, just not much. But logging trucks do go by, and they're carrying some nice looking logs harvested from their plantations. Each plantation is marked by a sign indicating when the last harvest was, when the new harvest was planted, and when it will be harvested. For instance: Harvested & replanted in 1986, next harvest in 2036. Talk about farming on a loooooong schedule!

Astoria is a cute town, with lots of potential. On the road to Long Beach (from Portland), a working town with a cool bridge at the mouth of the Columbia, and they're working hard to keep it a nice tourist town.

Had my first (of many more to come) oyster stews made with Willapa Bay oysters. I am in love!

Glad to see the Republic is still standing...

1,842 posted on 07/13/2003 3:06:27 AM PDT by jennyp (http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com)
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To: Alamo-Girl
t used to be that these threads stayed on topic with the theory of evolution v intelligent design - or - the theory of evolution v. young earth creationism. Lately however the threads have become side-tracked on besmirching either Christian fundamentalism on the one hand, or Catholicism on the other. I would much prefer we simply agree to stay on the original topics, but if besmirching must go on, then I strongly recommend we define the terms - because it is inappropriate to equate Young Earth Creationism to Christian Fundamentalism. Likewise, it would be inappropriate to equate the Theory of Evolution to Catholism.

No one regrets the side-tracking more than I do. I would prefer to discuss evolution and anyone's scientific objections or alternatives to it. If the proposed objections and alternatives are religious in nature, as is often the case, I personally regard them as off-topic and entirely irrelevant in a science thread.

Unfortunately, some people around here regard that position to be "Christian-bashing," while I regard it as merely trying to stay on topic. Alas, things can all-too-easily degenerate when someone (often well-intentioned but horrendously ignorant) takes the position that "We good Christian folk have to shut down you eeeeevil science folk." It is most unfortunate when a thread swerves off in that direction.

1,843 posted on 07/13/2003 4:07:06 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: gore3000
I am afraid you will have to ask Him that question when you meet Him.

All problems with "the Design Hypothesis" may be thus handwaved away. "We cannot second-guess the Designer."

However, as to design in general, once you understand the purpose of something and how it works it is easy for an intelligent designer adapt it to other situations.

"... Unless it's convenient to second-guess the Designer."

The "Designer" of ID does not act like a human designer. He is inefficient, clumsy, kloodgy, doesn't modularize or share design where it would be expected, but does borrow design where it is unexpected. When he made the bat, he apparently didn't borrow from the bird at all but from the tree-dwelling insectivores. Those are the parts he adapted. Odd. When he made the whales, he didn't borrow from the fish but from the land mammals. Again, odd. When he made the thylacine, he didn't borrow so much from the wolf as from the kangaroo, or something like it. Odd.

But we're not allowed to count any of that against ID, since we cannot know what this Designer was up to. Except when it's "easy." This isn't science. It's just an adaptation of Genesis via creationist pamphlets via rewriting to omit reference to the Christian/Jewish God. It predicts nothing, and tells us nothing about the history of life on Earth.

1,844 posted on 07/13/2003 4:44:02 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: jennyp
Glad to see the Republic is still standing...

Well, sort of. No science on these threads anymore, tho. Freakin' Bible class.

1,845 posted on 07/13/2003 5:00:04 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: PatrickHenry
Too much troll-feeding. Virtual Ignore is our friend.
1,846 posted on 07/13/2003 5:02:26 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: PatrickHenry
"If the proposed objections and alternatives are religious in nature, as is often the case, I personally regard them as off-topic and entirely irrelevant in a science thread."

Does that statement pretend to state you've not participated in "religious" discussions? Your piety falls on deaf ears all around because you have. Delights in personal attacks not excluded.
The only good news in all this whining is that you've effectively been reduced to not much more than a placemarker, which appears to be your just desserts for your part in the grand scheme of the christian bashing you suddenly imagine yourself above.
1,847 posted on 07/13/2003 6:47:29 AM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)
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To: CobaltBlue
God did not die on the cross.

Then what good was his death?

And what do you do with the scriptures that say Jesus WAS God?

1,848 posted on 07/13/2003 6:57:17 AM PDT by Dataman
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To: VadeRetro
Looks like #1844 is merely an admission of ignorance and hatred masked in disrespect for God


"Well, sort of. No science on these threads anymore, tho. Freakin' Bible class."

"Freakin'" isn't really the word you wanted to use, is it.

When people like you go out of their way to imply the Creator is a bumbling fool, stumbling through eternity with a corncob pipe, that not only makes you a bigger fool than we previously knew, but is an affront to all christians, who you automatically include in your profane insults.

If there is no God, then explain your obsession.

1,849 posted on 07/13/2003 6:59:37 AM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)
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To: PatrickHenry
Alas, things can all-too-easily degenerate when someone (often well-intentioned but horrendously ignorant) takes the position that "We good Christian folk have to shut down you eeeeevil science folk." It is most unfortunate when a thread swerves off in that direction.

One good thing about that happening on a thread about textbook selection in Texas is that people get to see the real face of ID, a supposedly secular movement within science. Oh, yeah!

1,850 posted on 07/13/2003 7:09:45 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro; All
"One good thing about that happening on a thread about textbook selection in Texas is that people get to see the real face of ID, a supposedly secular movement within science."

Your posts reveal the real face of evolution, an agenda driven hatred for God. If evolution was "just about science", such wouldn't be the case.

Evolution: A snake with a bullhorn.
1,851 posted on 07/13/2003 7:14:51 AM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)
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To: PatrickHenry; Alamo-Girl
Too much troll-feeding. Virtual Ignore is our friend.

Should make it clear that I was referring to the state of the thread this morning and not your talking to Alamo-Girl. (Hugs, A-G!)

Two hundred posts since last night, virtually all off-topic.

1,852 posted on 07/13/2003 7:41:45 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
Placemarker
1,853 posted on 07/13/2003 7:53:19 AM PDT by Junior (Killed a six pack ... just to watch it die.)
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To: Junior

click the pic


1,854 posted on 07/13/2003 7:56:01 AM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)
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To: VadeRetro
"Two hundred posts since last night, virtually all off-topic."

How many are yours bashing God and Christians? Are those "on topic"?

EVOCRITE noun [U]
when someone pretends to believe something that they do not really believe or that is the opposite of what they do or say at another time
1,855 posted on 07/13/2003 7:58:14 AM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)
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To: CobaltBlue
I am not attacking other Christians.

Could have fooled me!

1,856 posted on 07/13/2003 8:02:44 AM PDT by gore3000 (Intelligent people do not believe in evolution.)
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To: VadeRetro
Two hundred posts since last night, virtually all off-topic.

Yep. So-called-Christians infighting placemarker.

1,857 posted on 07/13/2003 8:06:50 AM PDT by balrog666 (When in doubt, tell the truth. - Mark Twain)
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To: balrog666
An atheist is now judging who are and who aren't Christians?

Your momma give you these ideas?

1,858 posted on 07/13/2003 8:13:57 AM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)
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To: balrog666; longshadow; VadeRetro; Aric2000

Automated Troll-Guard tm notification:
All trolls ignored.
Security settings on high.
Idiot tolerance level on low.
Troll traction index: 22%


1,859 posted on 07/13/2003 8:14:22 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Automated Evo-Guard tm notification:
All Evos auto-ignorant.
Evo inSecurity settings on high.
Evo IQ level on low.

"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded not by religionists but by Christians, not on religion but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We shall not fight alone. God presides over the destinies of nations." - Patrick Henry

1,860 posted on 07/13/2003 8:20:34 AM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)
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