Police unable to locate barricaded man in burned home's rubble {raid on Michigan Militia Chaplin}

AP via MLive.com (Ann Arbor News) ^ | 7/9/2003 | JAMES PRICHARD

[Catspaw]

What police department are you with?

[RGSpincich]

The guy fears his government,

That's BS. He goes to court on a regular basis to argue his license fees, pays his property taxes under protest, he knows his local government officials and they know him. They seem to have a stable relationship.

The guy feared having to answer for his behavior with little girls.

[Poohbah]

Can't put a price on the Troopers life.

Police are paid to do a dangerous job.

Getting shot by a bad guy is an occupational hazard.

And you're still ignoring the issue of the rights of this cretin's neighbors--specifically, the right to the quiet enjoyment of their property.

Or are you saying that this guy's rights are superior to everyone else's rights?

[Cultural Jihad]

Or are you saying that this guy's rights are superior to everyone else's rights?

Undoubtedly they feel a kinship to anyone else who thinks they are the center of the universe.

[xring]

"What police department are you with?"

Sometimes I just like to stir up a little debate.

[Catspaw]

Uh huh.

[xring]

The police didn't seem to be worried about the neighbors rights while driving an armored personnel carrier and flying a helicopter around the place. I wonder what the neighbors thought of the scare tactics and intimidation? I wonder how close thr neighbors were to this guys house? If not too close was evacuation really necessary?

I suspect that waiting would not be much more expensive than operating all that equipment and burning the house down.

Oh, and whether you agree with the police tactics or not, they still botched it.

[Jeff Gordon]

It sounds to me like they set him up on a trumped-up charge, used that as an excuse to try and make an example out of him, botched the raid, killed one of their own officers, and then he somehow escaped.

That seems to be the gist of the story. What is missing is the reason why the jack booted thugs had Woodring on their hit list.

[xring]

Sounds like the police would have had multiple opportunities to snatch this guy, why waste all that manpower and equipment? Do I detect a similarity to Waco?

[Poohbah]

The police didn't seem to be worried about the neighbors rights while driving an armored personnel carrier and flying a helicopter around the place.

They'd already been evacuated because of the imminent danger posed by this nut.

I wonder how close thr neighbors were to this guys house?

Within rifle range.

I suspect that waiting would not be much more expensive than operating all that equipment and burning the house down.

Overtime at 1.5x and 2x gets very expensive very quickly.

[RGSpincich]

Do I detect a similarity to Waco?

Don't you always?

[xring]

"Hey, dumbf***! "


So much for treating folks with respect.

You're right, he was and he did, why waste all that time and equipment? Lets just take him out. That would also save court costs and the cost of imprisonment.

[Poohbah]

You're right, he was and he did, why waste all that time and equipment? Lets just take him out. That would also save court costs and the cost of imprisonment.

To get due process, you have to quit shooting at the cops.

BTW, if you want to be treated with respect, show some respect for others and quit repeating complete BS.

[xring]

"Don't you always?"


Not really, only when there are similarities.

[Vigilant1]

It's sure beginning to look like the MSP assaulted an empty house and killed one of their own. I bet they still try to hang that on Woodring as a 'special circumstances' murder charge.

For those who seem to think that criticizing other peoples' spelling is of paramount importance to this thread, I suggest you all talk with your therapist about your anal retentive personal issues. Help is available!

And Poo, thanks for the chuckle with your hilarious "multi-barrel trap gun" BS. Your rhetorical contortions to try and torture the facts to fit your preconceived notions sets new standards for comical fabrications that Bagdhad Bob might have trouble meeting. LOL!

[xring]

I'm not trying to defend the guy, my position is that the police don't need to bring in heavy armor for one man. I believe they mishandled the situation. They botched it.

[RGSpincich]

The police went to his house and treated him like a man. They did not treat him like a dog they would catch running down the street without a leash. He had not shown any violent tendancies and remember he studied the Bible. He made the situation what it became, he alone is responsible.

[Copernicus]

I didn't see this on the *bang_list. I hope I don't find it after I've posted this.

[xring]

"Undoubtedly they feel a kinship to anyone else who thinks they are the center of the universe. "

Who are "they"?