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Police unable to locate barricaded man in burned home's rubble {raid on Michigan Militia Chaplin}
AP via MLive.com (Ann Arbor News) ^ | 7/9/2003 | JAMES PRICHARD

Posted on 07/09/2003 5:52:58 AM PDT by Vigilant1

DAYTON TOWNSHIP, Mich. (AP) ? Fire burned the rural home of a man who barricaded himself inside during a deadly police standoff, but authorities were unable to find him when they searched the rubble, Michigan State Police said.

Two hours after the Tuesday afternoon fire, officials found a backpack filled with food and ammunition about three-quarters of a mile away, said Tracy Pardo, a state police communications officer.

The wife of the barricaded man, Scott Allen Woodring, 40, identified the backpack as her husband's, Pardo told the Detroit Free Press for a Wednesday story.

State police said Woodring was believed to be inside when they fired a concussion grenade into the house, which went up in flames a short time later. They were uncertain whether the explosive device, intended to stun Woodring, started the fire or if he set it.

State police scheduled a news conference for Wednesday morning.

Trooper Kevin Marshall, a 33-year-old married father of two and a native of Sterling Heights, was shot Monday afternoon during the standoff. He died later during surgery at a Grand Rapids hospital.

State police were called in after the confrontation erupted Sunday night.

Woodring barricaded himself when officers from the Hesperia Police Department and the Newaygo County Sheriff's Department tried to serve him at his Dayton Township home with a felony arrest warrant. The township is adjacent to Fremont, about 30 miles northeast of Muskegon.

The warrant accuses Woodring of soliciting a minor for sex on July 1 at a gas station, The Grand Rapids Press reported.

Several hours into the standoff, police helped Woodring's wife escape the home, leaving him alone inside.

After Woodring allegedly fired two shots from the house on Monday afternoon, the State Police Emergency Support Team stormed inside and then withdrew. Marshall, an eight-year state police veteran who served on the team, was shot at that time.

When asked whether Marshall could have been hit by a bullet shot by another officer, state police Inspector Barry Getzen said the matter remained under investigation and authorities would examine evidence to "determine what rounds the officer was hit with."

Tom Wayne, former chief of staff and executive officer of the Michigan Militia Corps Wolverines, told The Detroit News that Woodring was active in the group until the mid-1990s. They parted ways over ideological differences.

"He started getting more and more into the Christian Identity movement," said Wayne, who said the militia is largely inactive now.

The movement espouses racist, sexist, anti-Semitic and homophobic beliefs.

Woodring's sister, Debbie DeVisser, of Mount Pleasant, described her brother as a deeply religious man who would help anyone and not ask for anything in return.

Asked if she thought he would shoot at someone, DeVisser said, "Scott would not shoot anybody to harm anybody. The only reason he would have shot (at police) was because he felt threatened and to protect himself."

DeVisser said she wished police had allowed family members to talk to Woodring on Tuesday and speculated that family may have been able to talk him out. Relatives were allowed to converse with him on Monday, the same day police said they last spoke with him during the standoff.

Suzie Burdick, of Everett Township in Newaygo County, said she and Woodring have been close friends for five years. She said they have attended the same church for about a year and often spoke several times a day, mostly about the Bible.

Burdick noted that while Woodring holds strong anti-government views, he was a nonviolent person.

"He's the most loving person I've ever known, just about. He's kind, considerate, loving, caring and loved his wife dearly," Burdick said.

Meanwhile, Gov. Jennifer Granholm has ordered flags at all state buildings to be lowered to half-staff until sundown of the day of Marshall's funeral. Funeral arrangements have not yet been completed, according to her office.

Marshall is the 49th Michigan State Police trooper to die in the line of duty. His death is the department's first in three years.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: banglist; chaplain; christianidentity; michigan; michiganmilitia; militia
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To: conservababeJen
Mr Woodring (a citizen with rights) hasn't had his say.

He refused to have his say, when he took his wife hostage and barricaded himself in his house. Has he gone quietly when they served the arrest warrant Sunday night, he'd have had his say in court.

Instead, he had his say from the barrel of his gun.

101 posted on 07/09/2003 7:59:22 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: Dead Corpse
Good luck trying to present any other possibilities other than that Woodring was a cop-killing militia nut. Catspaw, CJ, Chancellor Palpatine, and a couple other Flying Mokeys will be along shortly to call you every name in the book and accuse you of condoning paedophilia despite anything resembling a coherent story supported by anything other than supposition.

LOL! Now that is the type of humor I like. And not far from the truth I might add.....Hehehe....

102 posted on 07/09/2003 7:59:29 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: Vigilant1
Chaplin=Chaplain
103 posted on 07/09/2003 8:00:50 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: Cachelot; jimt
jimt, you may want to do a google.com search on "Christian Identity." Posting a link to any CI site and/or posting any of their literature would most certainly get the post pulled and a suspension/banning from FR would be a very good possibility.
104 posted on 07/09/2003 8:01:36 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Vigilant1
Here is another perspective on this. It's a very different view

Interesting. Your Mr. "Navigator" can't spell much either. Chaplins and precussion grenades abound on "assaultweb", it seems.

Be that as it may, he also posted a link to WZZM13, where we can read the following:

The Michigan State Police have also released autopsy information on Trooper Kevin Marshall.

Marshall had been hit by 4 small caliber rounds. The wounds made by these rounds were inconsistant with the type of weapons and ammunition used by the Police who carried out the forced entry.

Guess he wasn't shot by his fellow officers after all, huh?

105 posted on 07/09/2003 8:02:02 AM PDT by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
The best humor contains a core of truth. At least so they say.

However, I wasn't trying to be funny. Check out CJ and Chemist_Geek's posts so far. Kinda heavy handed considering that we have almost no facts to work with.

106 posted on 07/09/2003 8:02:24 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Beelzebubba
No one said that. I certainly didn't. I am interested in what caused the fire, though.
107 posted on 07/09/2003 8:03:11 AM PDT by rintense (Freedom is contagious, and everyone wants to catch it!)
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To: Vigilant1
Well, the criticism of dress is one thing but asking the girls to come with him so he could help them change is another.

Why don't I know any decent, religious, kind-hearted people in an ineffectual and useless organization who are targets of cops? Why are the only ones I see violent bozos without a clue?
108 posted on 07/09/2003 8:03:41 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: Dead Corpse
I just got in. Still no remains found of the suspect? this This does not make the LEOs look really good does it? When I first read that he was not found in the debris, I was more than a little surprised....
109 posted on 07/09/2003 8:03:59 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: Chemist_Geek
The ballistics tests are totally irrelevant. Had Woodring gone quietly Sunday evening, Trooper Marshall would not have been in the line of fire Monday afternoon.

Excellent point. But you're being way too logical. ;)

110 posted on 07/09/2003 8:04:06 AM PDT by rintense (Freedom is contagious, and everyone wants to catch it!)
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To: Beelzebubba
Autopsy results

Then he deserved to have his house burned down, right?

Right. He killed a valued member of his community and injured another. Burn, baby, burn.

111 posted on 07/09/2003 8:04:53 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Cachelot
    W Z Z M    1 3    N E W S    H E A D L I N E S
All Points Bulletin issued for Scott Woodring
By mjh
Posted: 7/9/2003

The Michigan State Police have issued an all points bulletin for Scott Woodring. MSP feel that Woodring had most likely left the house in Fremont prior to the attempted forced entry. Police stated that Woodering may have left as early as Monday afternoon. A search of the ruins has yet to turn up any evidence of Woodring and the MSP have gone over to seach and arrest plan. A warrent for Woodring's arrest has been issued on charges of Open Murder and Felony Firearms. Anyone with any information is asked to call 1-800-991-TIPS.

The Michigan State Police have also released autopsy information on Trooper Kevin Marshall.


112 posted on 07/09/2003 8:09:15 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: RGSpincich
Looks like he did escape.
113 posted on 07/09/2003 8:09:37 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Vigilant1
Listen to the archive of the Tuesday Intelligence Report show that was devoted to the story of Scott Allen Woodring.

RealPlayer archive

WinAmp archive

114 posted on 07/09/2003 8:10:02 AM PDT by NWO Slave
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To: rintense
But you're being way too logical. ;)

It's my job. :-D

115 posted on 07/09/2003 8:11:43 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: Chemist_Geek
Gee, he looks like a kid! What a shame. I hope the truth prevails here.
116 posted on 07/09/2003 8:12:39 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: Dead Corpse
Oh, I know, I fully understand. It was insinuated that I was a wacko and supporting a cop killer when all that I did was question or speculate on the initial charge that was alleged against the suspect. These people were *nazi* like, totally over the top, as they would accuse people of all kinds of things, and all many were doing was speculating or discussing the events....Trust me, I read the tread, LOL, it was a bit much. I finally had to take one of them to the woodshed. P>

117 posted on 07/09/2003 8:13:12 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: hellinahandcart
It also looks like he's a whole lot more trouble than the initial charges:

A warrent for Woodring's arrest has been issued on charges of Open Murder and Felony Firearms.

118 posted on 07/09/2003 8:15:23 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Marysecretary
Gee, he looks like a kid! What a shame.

I don't know when the photo was taken. He was 33, and had served as a Michigan State Trooper for eight years.

119 posted on 07/09/2003 8:17:26 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: Marysecretary
Gee, he looks like a kid!

He's 40. No date on the picture, though.

120 posted on 07/09/2003 8:17:36 AM PDT by Catspaw
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