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OBITUARY / TONY POSHEPNY (POE) - CIA operative stood out in `secret war' in Laos
www.bangkokpost.com ^ | Jul 7, 2003 | RICHARD S. EHRLICH

Posted on 07/09/2003 2:45:22 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Anthony A. Poshepny, a decorated, former CIA official who collected enemy ears, dropped decapitated human heads from the air on to communists and stuck heads on spikes, was buried on Saturday in California after waging failed secret wars in Indonesia, Tibet and Laos.

``The posting of decapitated heads obviously sent a powerful message, especially to North Vietnamese troops seeking to invade the homelands of the Hmong and Lao people,'' said Philip Smith, executive director of the Washington-based Center for Public Policy Analysis, in an email interview after Poshepny's death on June 27.

``He successfully fought terror with terror. He strove to instill courage and respect in the tribal and indigenous forces that he recruited and trained as well as fear in the enemy.

``In the post-Sept 11th [2001] security environment, fearless men like Tony `Poe' are what America needs to combat and counter terrorism and the new unconventional threat that America faces from abroad in exotic and uncharted lands,'' Mr Smith said.

The heavy-drinking, stocky Poshepny, also known as Tony Poe, suffered shrapnel and other wounds, diabetes and circulatory problems. He died, aged 78, in the San Francisco Veterans Medical Center following a long illness and his funeral was held in nearby Sonoma, California. He is survived by his Lao-American wife, Sheng Ly, and their children Usanee, Domrongsin, Maria and Catherine.

He twice won a CIA Star - the Central Intelligence Agency's highest award - from directors Allen Dulles, in 1959, and William Colby, in 1975, according to a funeral announcement.

Born on Sept 18, 1924 in Long Beach, California, much of his legacy remains in unmarked graves half a world away, here in Asia.

In 1942, Poshepny joined the marines, was wounded on Iwo Jima and received two Purple Hearts.

A loud, intense, short-tempered patriot, he joined the CIA as a paramilitary officer in 1951.

``Within weeks, he was running sabotage teams behind enemy lines in Korea. He and former CIA colleagues say Mr Poshepny went on to train anti-communists in Thailand, to foment a failed coup in Indonesia, and to help organise the escape of the Dalai Lama from Tibet in 1959,'' the Wall Street Journal reported in 2000.

During the Korean war, Poshepny went to Korea with the CIA and ``worked with the Chondogyo church group, a sort of animist-Christian sect that had fled North Korea and were being trained to be sent back across the 38th parallel'', according to William Leary, a University of Georgia history professor.

``At the end of the Korean war, Tony was one of eight [CIA] case officers who were sent to Thailand. He remained there for five years, serving under Walt Kuzmak, who ran the CIA cover company, Sea Supply,'' Mr Leary said in an online condolence website honouring Poshepny's life.

In 1958, Poshepny and fellow CIA operative Pat Landry tried to spark an uprising among dissident colonels against Indonesia's then-President Sukarno, father of Indonesia's current President Megawati Sukarnoputri. Outgunned and trapped on the Indonesian island of Sumatra, Poshepny and Landry fled to a fishing trawler which took them to a waiting US submarine, according to the book Feet to the Fire, by Kenneth Conboy and James Morrison.

At Camp Hale, Colorado, he helped train Tibet's tall, fierce Khamba tribesmen to be guerrillas and accompanied them to Bangladesh, then East Pakistan, from where Tibetans were flown and parachuted into Tibet in a failed attempt to stop China's Peoples Liberation Army from occupying their homeland.

Poshepny's CIA work in Laos began in 1961 during America's failed ``secret war'' against communist North Vietnamese, who carved the Ho Chi Minh Trail through Lao territory to attack US forces in South Vietnam.

Pathet Lao communist fighters were also the CIA's foe. The Lao communists achieved victory in 1975 and continue to rule the tiny nation today.

The loquacious, gravel-voiced Poshepny confirmed to me in 2001 that he rewarded his fighters for bringing in enemy ears. He also confirmed he let his Lao guerrillas erect a human head on a spike and toss pebbles at it, to boost their anti-communist fervour.

Poshepny said he twice hurled human heads from an aircraft on to his enemies in Laos, to terrify them. ``We flew in real low, in front of that bastard's house and I threw the head so it bounced right on his porch and into his front door,'' Poshepny, laughing, told me at his San Francisco home in 2001.

Based for several years in the highlands of northern Laos, where he was seriously wounded three times, Poshepny grew angry at Washington's attempts to control his activities. So he sent a bag filled with human ears to the US embassy in the Lao capital, Vientiane, to prove his guerrillas were killing communists.

The unopened bag arrived on a Friday and sat in the US embassy over the weekend. ``Human ears contain a lot of water, and they dried up and shrivelled in the heat all weekend, so when the embassy secretary opened the bag on Monday morning it was terrible and she got real sick,'' Poshepny told me. ``I really regret doing that to her because she wasn't to blame at all.''

He unabashedly admitted his horrific acts to other journalists, while insisting his motive was to defeat communism. ``I used to collect ears,'' a cheerful Poshepny was quoted as telling Roger Warner in his book, Shooting at the Moon, which won Washington's Overseas Press Club award for the best book on foreign affairs.

``I had a big, green, reinforced cellophane bag as you walked up my steps. I'd tell my people to put them in, and then I'd staple them to this 5,000 kip [Lao currency] notice that this [ear] was paid for already, and put them in the bag and send them to Vientiane with the report.

``Sent them only once or twice, and then the goddamn office girls [in the US embassy] were sick for a week. Putrid when they opened up the envelope. Some guy in the office, he told me, `Jeez, don't ever do that again. These goddamn women don't know anything about this shit, and they throw up all over the place.'

``I still collected them, until one day I went out on an inspection trip... and I saw this little [Lao] kid out there, he's only about 12, and he had no ears. And I asked: `What the hell happened to this guy?' Somebody said, `Tony, he heard you were paying for ears. His daddy cut his ears off. For the 5,000 kip','' Poshepny said. ``Oh, that p..... me off,'' Poshepny told Mr Warner.

``As for dropping human heads on enemy villages, `I only did it twice in my career', Poshepny said, once on a Lao ally who had been flirting with the communists. `I caught hell for that,' '' the Wall Street Journal reported.

Some people considered him mentally unsound, ``obnoxious'', ``a drunk'' and an insubordinate ``knuckle-dragger'' while working for the CIA. But Poshepny inspired strong loyalty and admiration among other Americans and Hmong who knew him.

``Over the years, I have worked closely - in various capacities - with many senior American military and clandestine leaders involved in Laos during the Vietnam war, including William Colby, former DCI [Director of Central Intelligence]; Theodore Shackley, former CIA station chief, Laos; Douglas Blaufarb, former CIA station chief, Laos; Larry Devlin, former CIA station chief, Laos; and others,'' said Mr Smith of the Center for Public Policy Analysis.

``Tony Poe epitomised what the late Theodore Shackley, former CIA station chief in Laos, called the `Third Option'. America, to avoid the potential twin options of using nuclear or conventional forces to defend its interests, should instead rely on special, elite, clandestine forces to recruit, train and arm indigenous or tribal forces, to project power, protect its interests and counter guerrilla movements, terrorism or other attacks,'' he said.

``Clearly, Tony Poe symbolised America's decision to exercise its `Third Option' in Laos.''

After retiring in 1975, Poshepny and his Hmong wife lived in northern Thailand until 1992, when they moved to the United States.

He remained close to the Lao community in the San Francisco Bay area, advising their sons to join the marines, financing Lao in need and petitioning Washington for aid to Lao veterans.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anthonyaposhepny; cia; gutsandglory; hmong; indonesia; laos; obituary; tibet; tonypoe

1 posted on 07/09/2003 2:45:22 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Sounds like quite a guy!
2 posted on 07/09/2003 2:47:40 AM PDT by exnavy
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3 posted on 07/09/2003 2:48:28 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Too bad he wasn't in charge of the CIA...Bin Laden would be missing two ears at a minimum.
4 posted on 07/09/2003 3:23:35 AM PDT by Young Rhino (Does God Wear a Tinfoil Hat? Is he a member of the CFR and Trilateral Commission?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Good post.

Now there's a movie just asking to be made.

5 posted on 07/09/2003 3:36:59 AM PDT by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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To: headsonpikes
Anthony A. Poshepny, a decorated, former CIA official who collected enemy ears, dropped decapitated human heads from the air on to communists and stuck heads on spikes, was buried on Saturday in California after waging failed secret wars in Indonesia, Tibet and Laos.

Sounds like your kind of guy.

6 posted on 07/09/2003 5:03:46 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: Tailgunner Joe
....thanks for the post Tailgunner Joe.....I was glad to read that he was even alive until recently....I heard that he stayed behind in '75 and disappeared.....it was said that the Communists hunted him down and killed him then.....they knew exactly who he was, and how he ever managed to get out of SE Asia in one piece is a testimony to his cunning.....

.....every so often we need men in this country whose mentods are "unsound".....would anyone other than the Left really worry if Muslim sleeper cells in America were quietly "terminated with extreme prejudice"?.....don't some situations justify assination upon detection?

7 posted on 07/09/2003 5:09:19 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: G.Mason
Now there's a movie just asking to be made.

It has ... sort of:

Apocalypse Now!

"Among the luminaries we met who put a copy of our signed book in their personal libraries was Tony Poe, the former CIA paramilitary leader whose tribal guerrillas fought in Laos during America's Vietnam War -- and who was portrayed as "Kurtz" in the film "Apocalypse Now."

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Rich's web site has gotten a bit messy, but you can find it here for more interesting reading. I've met him a few times and he's a great guy with a good sense of humor and unparalleled insight into SE Asia.

8 posted on 07/09/2003 5:10:26 AM PDT by angkor
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To: happygrl; headsonpikes

He was headsonpikes kind of guy. That's the point. Tony Poe was among the best of the best. Like many people in Laos in those days, he operated out of Vientiane and the "Mystery Base" at Long Thien, also known as "Alternate". It was a shame he wasn't able to save the Hmong, but Tony's war was undermined by American policymakers as early as 1968, when we started talking bugout in front of William Fulbright's Senate committee.

The entire war there had to be fought in secret. Parts for the Pilatus Porter observation planes were built in Taiwan at a secret factory, for instance. It was a scam, of course. We had to maintain the fiction that we were following the 1962 Geneva agreement on Laotian neutrality, which we weren't. Neither was the NVA, for that matter, but they had the advantage of being right next door.

Someday, Laos will be a free land again. It is hoped that in those days, Tony "Poe"'s memory will be honored.

Requiescat in Pacem.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

9 posted on 07/09/2003 5:13:37 AM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi just killed Barney....)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
`We flew in real low, in front of that bastard's house and I threw the head so it bounced right on his porch and into his front door,'' Poshepny, laughing

He does have an interesting sense of humor.

10 posted on 07/09/2003 5:16:38 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: section9; happygrl
Thanks for the ping!

You're right; he's my kind of guy - I envy him.

Not many of us get to fight and kill the enemy.

'Heads on spikes'....YES!!! ;^)

11 posted on 07/09/2003 6:47:03 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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12 posted on 07/09/2003 4:38:50 PM PDT by IncPen
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http://hostultra.com/~freeasia

http://hostultra.com/~freeasia1

http://geocities.com/freeasia

http://geocities.com/asiafrees

http://freeasia.150m.com

http://freeasia1.150m.com

http://freeasia.8k.com

http://asiaaid.8k.com

http://asiaweb.8k.com

http://asianarts.8k.com

http://asiahilltribechurch.8k.com

http://mekongtours.8k.com

http://asiahilltribes.8k.com

http://fsoc.8k.com

http://asiahilltribefoundation.8k.com

http://asiagoldentriangle.8k.com

http://asiahumananimalrights.8k.com

http://godblessamerica.8k.com

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http://asiahilltribemuseum.8k.com

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http://mok-jum-pae-hill-resort.8k.com

http://yokguesthouse-sawasdeetours.8k.com

http://rambosriversideresort.8k.com

http://backpackerheavenbungalows.8k.com



FSOC ONLINE INTEL SLIDESHOWS

TIBET-CHINA-BURMA-LAOS-THAILAND-CAMBODIA

-VIETNAM-HUMAN RIGHTS-ANIMAL RIGHTS-TRAVEL LOG

DOZEN SHOWS PER PASSWORD-1/2 HR-MUSIC-GRAPHICS-

PHOTO SLIDESHOW. MTNP-FSOC COPYRIGHTED@ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.



FSOC SLIDESHOW PASSWORDS

SHOW 1-FSOC=(ASIA TRAVEL LOG MEDIA) PASSWORD=freeasia

SHOW 2-FSOC=(ASIA TRAVEL LOG MEDIA) PASSWORD=asiafree

SHOW 3-FSOC=(ASIA SPECIAL OPERATIONS INTEL) PASSWORD=mekongtours

SHOW 4-FSOC=(ASIA TRAVEL LOG MEDIA) PASSWORD=asiavision



FSOC SLIDESHOW WEBSITE LINK

CLICK BELOW WEBSITE TO LOG ON TO THE FSOC-SLIDESHOWS

WITH THE ABOVE 4 PASSWORDS=1)freeasia 2)asiafree 3)mekongtours 4)asiavision



MAIN SLIDESHOW WEBSITE-CLICK HERE

http://www.photodex.com/sharing/browse.html

(ALLOW 3 MEG-1 MIN-PHOTODEX MEDIA PLAYER TO LOAD)

1) password=freeasia

FSOC NOW SHOWING SLIDESHOW LIST
FSOC-1-BURMA HUMAN RIGHTS REPORT-1
FSOC-2-CHINA HUMAN RIGHTS REPORT-1
FSOC-3-CAMBODIA-PART-1-HUMAN RIGHTS REPORT-1
FSOC-4-CAMBODIA-PART-2-HUMAN RIGHTS REPORT-1
FSOC-5-LAOS HUMAN RIGHTS REPORT-1
FSOC-6-TIBET HUMAN RIGHTS REPORT-1
FSOC-7-VIETNAM HUMAN RIGHTS REPORT-1
FSOC-8-NORTH KOREA HUMAN RIGHTS REPORT-1
FSOC-9-ASIA ANIMAL RIGHTS REPORT-1
FSOC-10-ASIA DRUGLORD DYNASTY-1
FSOC-11-NEPAL HUMAN RIGHTS REPORT-1
FSOC-12-BURMA MONKS-1-1
FSOC-13-KUOMINTANG ARMY-(KMT)-MUSEUM-1
FSOC-14-KUOMINTANG ARMY-(KMT)-MUSEUM-2



2) password=asiafree

FSOC SLIDESHOWS-NOW SHOWING
FSOC-1-NEPAL-1
FSOC-2-ASIA HILLTRIBES-RED KAREN-1
FSOC-3-ASIA HILLTRIBES-PADAUNG-1
FSOC-4-ASIA HILLTRIBES-PADAUNG-2
FSOC-5-AMERICAN EAGLES-1
FSOC-6-BURMA INTEL REPORT-1
FSOC-7-BURMA INTEL REPORT-2
FSOC-8-BURMA TEMPLES-1
FSOC-9-BURMA TEMPLES-2
FSOC-10-BURMA TEMPLES-3
FSOC-11-CHINA (DRAGON BACKBONE) TERRACED RICE FIELDS-1
FSOC-12-BURMA MARKETS-3
FSOC-13-ASIA HILLTRIBES-MIEN-1
FSOC-14-ASIA HILLTRIBES-CHINA LONG HORN HMONG (WOOD)-1
FSOC-15-ASIA HILLTRIBES-CHINA LONG HORN HMONG (SILVER-SMALL)-1
FSOC-16-ASIA HILLTRIBES-CHINA LONG HORN HMONG (SILVER-BIG)-1




3) password=mekongtours

FSOC SLIDESHOWS-NOW SHOWING
FSOC-1-ASIA AKHA HILLTRIBES-1
FSOC-2-ASIA ANG HILLTRIBES-1
FSOC-3-ASIA HMONG HILLTRIBES-1
FSOC-4-ASIA LAHU HILLTRIBES-1
FSOC-5-ASIA LISU HILLTRIBES-1
FSOC-6-ASIA PADAUNG HILLTRIBES-1
FSOC-7-ASIA PALAUNG HILLTRIBES-1
FSOC-8-BURMA OPIUM HILLTRIBES-1
FSOC-9-CHINESE MONKEY BUSINESS-1
FSOC-10-CHINESE HILLTRIBE CHILDREN-1
FSOC-11-ASIA BUG EATERS-1-1
FSOC-12-ASIA SMAILES-1-1
FSOC-13-CHINA HMONG MUSEUM-1-1
FSOC-14-CHINA HMONG MUSEUM-2-1




4) password=asiavision

FSOC SLIDESHOWS NOW SHOWING
FSOC-1-ASIA ELEPHANTS-1
FSOC-2-ASIA MONKEYS-1
FSOC-3-ASIA SNAKES-1
FSOC-4-ASIA TIGERS-1
FSOC-5-ASIA BIRDS-1
FSOC-6-ASIA ANIMALS-1
FSOC-7-ASIA MONKEYFEST-1
FSOC-8-ASIA BUTTERFLYS-1
FSOC-9-ASIA FLOWERS-1
FSOC-10-CHINA HILLTRIBES-1
FSOC-11-CHINA HILLTRIBES-2
FSOC-12-ASIA GOLDEN TRIANGLE-
FSOC-13-FISHWORLD-1-1
FSOC-14-NEW WORLD ORDER-1
FSOC-15-BURMA SHANLAND INTEL-1
FSOC-16-CAMP KURTZ-1
FSOC-17-CAMP KURTZ-2



GREAT BURMA HILLTRIBE BOOKS WEBSITE AND

FREEDOM FIGHTER MAP DIRECTORY BELOW

http://www.diranart.com

FSOC ASIA TRAVEL ADVISORIES

http://travel.state.gov/travel_warnings.html


FSOC ELITE ASIA SPECIAL FORCES
FREEDOM FIGHTER COMMANDOS

http://www.prayforburma.org

http://www.betterworldlinks.org/book37c.htm

http://www.himalayan-imports.com/gurkha.html

http://www.chro.org/
http://english.dvb.no/news.php?id=2881%20id=r-9

http://www.albany.edu/~gb661/index.html

http://www.cambodia.org
http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/asylum/ric/documentation/MMR00002.htm


http://www.ibiblio.org/freeburma/humanrights/khrg/archive/index.html
http://www.shanworld.org/


http://www.shanland.org/
http://www.myanmar.com/Arm_Peace/PSLA.html

http://ndf-burma.org/wno/

http://www.hrichina.org
http://home.earthlink.net/~laohumrights/

http://www.factfinding.org
http://www.freeburmacoalition.org

http://www.freeburma.org

http://www.fva.org

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/burma.htm
http://www.freetibet.org/

http://www.ahrchk.net/





FSOC ASIAWEB NEWS
http://www.voa.gov

http://www.rfa.org

http://www.bangkokpost.net/

http://www.bangkok.com/baht/

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/asiapcf/

http://www.drudgereport.com

http://www.vientianetimes.com

http://www.yahoo.com

http://www.pattayamail.com
http://www.foxnews.com

http://www.southeastasianews.net

http://www.thailandnews.net

http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/index.html

http://www.billoreilly.com/

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today.guest.html

http://www.hannity.com/

http://www.foxnews.com/tonysnow/

http://www.reagan.com/



14 posted on 09/07/2005 10:25:49 AM PDT by freeasia (FREEASIA SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMAND (FSOC) COL.WALTER E. KURTZ-FSOC COMMANDER-FREEASIA RANGER GROUP)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Hey Tailgunner Joe Tony Poe is my uncle he was the bravest man i know with the craziest stories ever


15 posted on 04/28/2006 2:22:48 PM PDT by Martin53NP
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To: Martin53NP

Hi Martin, I met your uncle in Vientiane, he worked with my dad Frank Becker up north (USAID, 65-75). He stayed at our house there a few times. My mom always talked fondly of Tony. Although I was just a kid, I definitely have vague memories of his hanging with my dad when they were down coolin their heels (and drinkin cold ones) in V.
Dad worked in Sam Thong and everywhere else up north with Jiggs Weldon and Pop Buell.
God Bless your uncle, and peace to you. Randy


16 posted on 08/27/2009 9:01:16 PM PDT by Company Son
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To: Company Son

Welcome to Free Republic. There are lots of Vietnam vets on this forum. Please feel free to join in on the current, active threads, too.


17 posted on 08/27/2009 9:11:10 PM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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