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To: Ronly Bonly Jones
Oh Come on. I am talking about "Henry the V" the story as told by Shakespeare (whomever he was- most likely the Earl of Oxford) not the true history. As a stroy it has great conservative subtext.

"Das Boot" is a great conservative film as well as it exposes the puffery and lies of modern totalitarian states in waging war. I forgot to mention another film- "Metropolitan" by the same director that did "Barcelona". The "Last days of Disco" is another sleeper by the same director.

72 posted on 07/09/2003 1:58:13 PM PDT by Burkeman1 (If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.)
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To: Burkeman1
Do you have any proof to suggest the Earl of Oxford, or anyone else besides th man who claimed to have written those plays, wrote them? (Shakspere/Shakespeare/Shagsper)

How is it a conservative value to believe that only a special elite class can contribute to society?

Isn't merit, and the idea of that one can use hard work and one's mind to advance oneself a conservative idea? Id you study his biography, you will see that Shakespeare was very determined to work himself up to the ``middle class'' of his day.

I am sure it would appeal to Hillary Clinton and her ilk that only the elite, like Edward de Vere, can be trusted with important thoughts.

95 posted on 07/09/2003 5:46:50 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Burkeman1
I loved Metropolitan but I doubt that many people would get it. Your take on Das Boot is dead on, the crew was fighting for their boat and each other's survival, not an ideology. The ending scene was so fitting, as the boat dies so does the Captain who was the soul of the crew. Amazing movie.
103 posted on 07/09/2003 6:43:43 PM PDT by Tailback
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