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And we're fussing about a change of a few dozen ppm of a CO2 molecule with a trace specific heat compared to H2O

I think a lot of people think I'm taking Al Gore's position. Let me repeat -- I'm not fussing about a "few dozen ppm" -- although I'd quibble about what a "few dozen" means in this context. In percentage terms it's significant: "380 ppm" as opposed to a previous historical high of "280 ppm" for the last half million years. (I think people that posted charts about what happened a billion years ago are silly -- we're talking about the modern environment, sustaining our life form, surely. Who cares if it was over 380mm 2 billion years ago?!)

I'm not saying we should fuss. We should as conservatives note that the "solution" to the problem -- I will call it that -- is to watch and monitor but not take any precipitous action, because no one but no one knows that it's going to lead to harm -- it may even lead to good. (Like the Christian Science Monitor article on increased vegetation . . . .) I'm just saying let's not deny these measurements and their significance. The question of whether there's manmade global warming is a science question. I think it's been answered. The question on its magnitude/impact/etc. science cannot now accurately speak to, and so it becomes a political question which conservatives should weigh in on. I bet we'd both be inclined to do the same do-nothing approach, saying free-market solutions can step in to solve the problem if it becomes a real, impactful "problem." I wish conservatives would take up this important conservative barricade, and stop thinking that they have to deny science in order to not sign Kyoto.

I do not agree that "science" "has ASCERTAINED" that humans have caused global warming with CO2 or any other stuff.

"SCIENCE", nearly all in social sciences rather than "earth science" primary researcher, "has DETERMINED" that there "shall be" human, i.e. American, causes of global warming.

Such a declaration gives rise to fussing and ranting about the polical crisis which only a world government can "solve" by enforcing dogma with international powers.

B.S.

If our earth is warming AND we have nothing to do with it, as is proven during last million years while humans were being created, the watermellons' one world government has free reign to equalize the peoples of the earth, under penalty of law, contrived under watermellons' high preists' agendas.

Only from the last glaciation melt down did humans' civilizations get into high gear. If earlier civilizations had gotten so far as plastics, we'd find their alloys and plastic trash.

We ARE now in the middle of a range of an 8+/- temperature swing, repeated over and over again and again - with and without humans' abilities to cause them. Why does it get hot? Why does it cold? Why does it get hot? Why does it cold? Why does it get hot? Why does it cold? Why does it get hot? Why does it cold?

What do we do about volcanoes and ongoing subduction? Our stuff fades to nothing when the earth belches or a piece of solar system trash reminds us that we're only human?

What happens when the earth cools? Now or in later genertions?

"Kyoto" is a sick, fascist third world joke to hobble the American economy while allowing the dirtiest economies free run.

Watermellon activists worldwide, in and out of professional "science", are driving "global warming" research funding and reporting.

100ppm of a trace gas with a comparably small specific heat is interesting.

We can do something about it as economics make sense. However, the number of people is as much the problem as anything. The planet may not allow 10 billion people as it may like over 3 billion.

H2O is the real culpret in surface and atmospheric "warming". Earth's core heat the bully. As the earth's radioactive core decays to lead, our world will freeze solid.

Remember that most faculty does only meta-research (aka copy cat from enough others' work to pretend to be original), not actual original research if any at all as that takes long, hard work and money.

Most "scientists" only teach and fuss. Been there.