The Trouble with Treason (David Horowitz regarding Ann Coulter)

Frontpagemagazine.com ^ | 7/8/03 | David Horowitz

[wildbill]

Coulter has gone over the top with this book. I watched the Chris Matthews interview. He was not his usual hard-charging self, but rather quiet as he asked those damning questions, almost sadly contemplative at the gaffes of an opponent. Coulter's response was laughable.

She's hurt the conservative cause with this one and probably won't be taken seriously by many after this. Too bad that hubris has ruined a good conservative critic.

[KC Burke]

I like the word "traitorous" better than "treason" as treason in narrowly defined in our Constitution due to its misuse by oligarchic and monarchal governments of the past.

[hoosiermama]

Ann is selling a ton of books from what I hear. Who thinks she could do so with a book designed only to create a tedious, careful and thoughtful "record"?


That is the point exactly. A conservative professor in tweed could produce a well documented, exact tome pointing out all the errors and omissions of past history. It would go no where. Few would read it: Make no impact.

Ann in her "ZIp a dee doh dah" --let it fly --cartoon super-hero way" is making BIG waves: Everyone seems to be discussing it, not just FR. She WILL make an impact. Ten years from now no one will remember a mistake here or there. Only that she helped create a difference.

[happygrl]

I think the fear of the Bomb gave Containment its resiliency. It was a standoff of Terror.

But MAD as a policy worked when we had reason to believe our enemies were at least rational.

Can't say the same thing about the nutcase in North Korea or the Islamic Ideologists.

Bush has the right idea in putting them on the run and keeping them off-balance, whadya think ?

[Chancellor Palpatine]

I listened to her on Medved one day, and she sounded like a raving lunatic - as if her mouth were outrunning her brain. The show was unformatted and unscripted, and she was on for a very long time, dealing with callers.

It was then that I decided she was just a bomb thrower, and not to be taken seriously.

[Scenic Sounds]

That is the point exactly. A conservative professor in tweed could produce a well documented, exact tome pointing out all the errors and omissions of past history. It would go no where. Few would read it: Make no impact.

I agree completely. Most of these political books that we see nowadays are like pop music. They're hot for a couple of months and then you can't even give them away.

A couple of weeks ago, I heard Ann suggest on TV that women shouldn't be allowed to vote. Am I supposed to believe that she really believes that?

It all reminds me of Madonna, somehow. LOL. ;-)

[Alberta's Child]

Based on my experience, the most eloquent writers are usually the worst public speakers. Pat Buchanan is the rare exception to this rule.

[dfwgator]

JFK primarily wanted to go into Vietnam because of its Catholic backround. He saw, and rightly so, Ho Chi Minh as a threat to Catholic domination in one of the few Catholic countries in Asia.

[Alberta's Child]

JFK primarily wanted to go into Vietnam because of its Catholic backround.

You've got to be kidding me. JFK didn't give a damn about his own Catholicism, so I have a hard time believing that this had anything to do with the U.S. involvement in southeast Asia.

[VRWC_minion]

I'd say this column was definitely written "more in sorrow than in anger."

I see a different persuasion device. He draws the reader who would otherwise reject Coulter out of hand and makes the more subtle case that she is right. He is a master pursuader.

[Dan(9698)]

>>>...The affair was when JFK was quite young, and the woman was a NAZI agent.

He was "quite young" when he was President, but the NAZI party was not in control in Germany.

[BibChr]

I have little respect for Horowitz, so didn't last past the first half-dozen paragraphs.

You read the article. He doesn't like Ann saying that all Democrats are unpatriotic liberals. Got that. Did Horowitz cite any specific patriotic non-liberal Democrat from the last ten years? Twenty?

Dan

[VRWC_minion]

It was then that I decided she was just a bomb thrower, and not to be taken seriously.

Bomb throwers change the course of history.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

In her case, it was different than a stammer or someone appearing at a loss for words. As she spoke, she had no sense of judgment for what was appropriate to the caller, and no sense of restraint from unnecessary and irrelevant insult.

As I remember, she was at her worst when talking about Norman Mineta's experience as an internee during the Second World War (he was 10 at the time). She deliberately minimized it, denigrated him, went out of her way to insult all the internees, and was just a complete stone witch about it.

That really turned me off - coming from a woman with no children.

[higgmeister]

bump for later. Looks good.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

Garbage. Bomb throwers stir up trouble that the sane have to put right.

[TheDon]

David missed this line from "Treason":

"Though McCarthy is sniffed at even by conservatives for his flamboyant rhetoric, in 'Witness', Chambers explains the importance of a fellow such as McCarthy. Referring to the Hiss hearings, Chambers writes that theatrics were 'almost the only weapon the commitee possessed.' Without a 'flair for showmanship,' the committee's extremely important work exposing the Communist conspiracy would have been smothered in silence and reduced to nullity."

David really seemed to be trying hard to find something wrong with Ann's newest book. 90%+ of his review seemed to praise the book, and the rest was a lukewarm criticism at best. Perhaps he wanted to appear "objective"? Since he claims he didn't like somethings about Ann's book, his readers will be more likely to accept his praise of her book? Perhaps that's just his way of flirting.

[hoosiermama]

It all reminds me of Madonna, somehow. LOL. ;-)

Yeah! Even the packaging. Or perhaps DOlly Pardon (It takes alot of money to look this cheap). She could appear very homely is she wanted to...be very calm and sedate......but it's all part of the packaging. Those who are taken in by it don't "get it" It all part of the merchandizing....a bit outlandish....but definately making waves...she gets by saying things others would be crucified for saying. (It takes a lot of brains to appear this "dumb" as in blond"

[martianagent]

That is the point exactly. A conservative professor in tweed could produce a well documented, exact tome pointing out all the errors and omissions of past history. It would go no where. Few would read it: Make no impact.

That's pretty much the way I see it. You could claim that Ann paints the dems with an overly large brush, but they were all out there protecting and shielding the commies and traitors and, as Ann notes, they would have torn Joe McCarthy and HUAC to shreds in any sort of a closed hearing or tribunal. The Truman justice department was set to go after Whittaker Chambers on trumped up charges to protect Alger Hiss. The only chance those guys had was the kind of grandstanding Joe was famous for and getting the truth out into the public spotlight as fast and in as garish a fashion as possible.

Hence the claim that Ann ignores claims that McCarthy was a demagogue carries no weight as far as I am concerned. The guy did a dirty job which nobody else wanted to do. One article on the subject notes that Joe was responsible for the defeat of 12 democrat senators. That just about makes the guy out to be the Lone Ranger, Superman, Moses, and St. George rolled up into a single man.

Picture somebody getting rid of 12 democrat senators today. Could you imagine the benefit to mankind?

[TheDon]

That is my observation as well.