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Proposition 187, Arizona-style
E-mail | 7 July 2003 | Kathy McKee

Posted on 07/07/2003 3:39:59 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder

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To: TheSpottedOwl
The man has lost his direction. He's on his way to Africa, but left all the doors and windows to the house wide open.
41 posted on 07/07/2003 5:31:49 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: Poohbah
They didn't anticpate ensuring that California would vote Democrat for the next twenty years.

The PRI party got their vote for 70 years and now they've got it again but the even more leftist party is gaining power. PRI is as corrupt as the Democrat party is here. 20 years is nothing. It's a one-party country moving in.

42 posted on 07/07/2003 5:32:59 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: DLfromthedesert
I believe that 68% approval number came from a poll conducted by the Public Television station - not excacly "fair and balanced"
44 posted on 07/07/2003 6:05:40 PM PDT by azcap
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To: FITZ
They rejected PAN which isn't really conservative by our standards but is the most conservative party in Mexico.

Mostly because PAN talked big and delivered small.

45 posted on 07/07/2003 6:39:55 PM PDT by Poohbah (I must be all here, because I'm not all there!)
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To: DLfromthedesert
So you think our Butch governor will fight for it if a court shoots it down?

janetgreen is rolling on the floor laughing... No, I don't think she will. I think she's really Gray Davis in drag!

46 posted on 07/07/2003 8:05:33 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Best of luck!

Cause/Effect
Don't blame the border crossers, blame the Welfare State.

47 posted on 07/07/2003 10:03:14 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: JackelopeBreeder
I doubt it will pass, it makes entirely too much sense.
48 posted on 07/08/2003 4:18:19 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
I can hear them now .. ..

OWWWWWWWWW!!!!

49 posted on 07/08/2003 6:20:31 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: JackelopeBreeder; All
Tucson Daily Star's POLL: Please vote quickly.

http://regulus.azstarnet.com/hourlyupdate/story.php?id=52http://regulus.azstarnet.com/hourlyupdate/story.php?id=52

50 posted on 07/09/2003 6:48:17 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (DHS BCBP II)
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To: Poohbah
For example, 187 had no severability clause.

I just read it, it has a severability clause.

51 posted on 07/09/2003 10:39:51 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (DHS BCBP II)
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To: Poohbah
For example, 187 had no severability clause.

I just read it, it has a severability clause.

52 posted on 07/09/2003 10:39:57 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (DHS BCBP II)
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To: Marine Inspector
OK, I was mistaken--one of the complaints by an anti-immigration group at the time was that it lacked a severability clause.
53 posted on 07/09/2003 10:40:43 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: Poohbah
OK, I was mistaken--one of the complaints by an anti-immigration group at the time was that it lacked a severability clause.

Wrong again eh Poo?

54 posted on 07/09/2003 10:41:50 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Treasure the moment, because it's so rare that I'm wrong.

Any time you're RIGHT is even rarer.
55 posted on 07/09/2003 10:52:58 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: Poohbah
Do you really, I mean really think prop 187 was thrown out by the government due to the measure being written badly. You can't be serious.....

There was no severability clause in Proposition 187. Without a severability clause, all that the opponents needed to do was get ONE very small piece of the initiative overturned, and the entire thing went with it. And it was 99% certain that some parts of the initiative were going to get shot down. The guys who wrote the initiative didn't think ahead, and the thing died right there.

More Bravo Sierra......

Yeah, it was badly written. The opponents used that to get the whole thing thrown out. Tough s**t.

Tough s**t, LOL!

56 posted on 07/09/2003 10:58:30 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: Poohbah
OK, I was mistaken--one of the complaints by an anti-immigration group at the time was that it lacked a severability clause.

I was speaking of the Arizona initiative, not California's Prop 187. Sorry for the miscommunication.

I have no idea if Prop 187 had a severability clause, but the Arizona initiative does.

57 posted on 07/09/2003 11:29:50 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (DHS BCBP II)
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To: Poohbah; Joe Hadenuf
OK, I was mistaken--one of the complaints by an anti-immigration group at the time was that it lacked a severability clause.

I was speaking of the Arizona initiative, not California's Prop 187. Sorry for the miscommunication.

I have no idea if Prop 187 had a severability clause, but the Arizona initiative does.

58 posted on 07/09/2003 11:30:46 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (DHS BCBP II)
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To: Poohbah; Joe Hadenuf
Sorry for the double post.

59 posted on 07/09/2003 11:32:44 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (DHS BCBP II)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Where can one sign these petitions?
60 posted on 07/09/2003 2:30:20 PM PDT by hsmomx3 (I want a Napolitano recall NOW!)
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