(Dale Earnhardt) Jr's Busch Crew Cheated, NASCAR Looked Away, I Saw It All

Inside the PitBox.com ^ | 7/7/03 | Rob Faiella

[DJ88]

Well, I did what he "suggested" we all do after he got tired of listening to us. I did call DEI and asked for their public relations department and when I explained what I had read, they asked me for the name of the website and the author of this article. They went on to say that they would take up a thorough investigation of this allegation. They aren't pleased, to say the least. They also asked me my name and phone number and if I was associated with this website [the author's] in any manner. Are you nuts? I asked. He chuckled.

I also called Mike Helton's office and spoke with HIS secretary who asked for the same information that DEI did. They didn't take any "official" position on this, they just said that the information would be passed along to Mr. Helton and asked me for my name and a phone number where I could be reached.

So. Looks like this guy is going to have a lot of important people calling to ask him some very interesting questions.

We shall see what the future holds for this man. Either a big reward or his butt's gonna get blown out of the water.

[Vigilantcitizen]

"Some fine-tuning in tech inspection is probably the norm. This idiot author is probably pointing out an adjustment that happens all the time and like I said is just trying to make a name for himself by blowing it out of proportion."

Ya know, I wonder if the author isn't a disgruntled small time racer who may have been shunned by DEI or RCR for a job at one time or another. Sure smells that way.

[glock rocks]

wow! (...and you took names :o)

bump!

[discostu]

Cool. Keep us posted, thanks to you this story has actually become interesting. Sure hope Jr. doesn't beat the guy too severely.

[Wolfstar]

I don't want to keep doing this tit-for-tat nonsense, but I'll be darned if I let what you're doing go unanswered.

Your question was as follows: Was that you earlier this year that theorized that Dale Jr's engine was "bigger" than everyone else's?

When I answered no, you responded: Yes, it was you. Your conspiracy was that Nascar lets Dale Jr run with bigger holes in the restrictor plates.

So it seems that you like to practice a little bait-and-switch. Ask one question, then insist the answer you get isn't correct because you really meant a different question. (Or perhaps it's that you don't know the difference between an engine and a restrictor plate?)

As for the rest of your silly, overheated response, I have a couple of questions of my own. Have you taken up my suggestion to notify DEI about the article? Or to contact the author of the article about the issues you have with it? Or do you just find it easier to avoid getting any substantive answers to your questions, preferring instead to lash out in a forum that preserves anonymity?

Oh, and by the way, don't you dare attribute an incorrect motivation to me. Your notion of my "spreading false, malicious gossip," is specious. I came across the article on a racing forum where it was posted by another participant on that forum. The original article was published on yet a different racing site. Who knows how many hundreds, perhaps thousands of people, saw it before and after I did. It is a news article — not just a news article, but a first-hand account by the man who says he was an eyewitness to the events described. As I mentioned to you yesterday, if there is anything that can be proven false or malicious about it, the author can be sued big time. So, for that matter, can the organization for which he works. IF — repeat, if — there is any truth to what the man describes, then he is protected by a little thing called the First Amendment, as are all those who comment on what he wrote.

And if there is any truth to what the man describes, then I come back to my original point. I find it disturbing that NASCAR officials might look the other way, as described. I find it disturbing for the reasons I stated several times in this thread. You may not like it nor agree with my point of view. But, hey, that's life and I most assuredly will get over it.

[glock rocks]

nope, nothing is wrong with your statement.

[pnz1]

Anyone who thinks Jr. was handed everything on a silver platter hasn't seen the stuff he used to have when he raced late models at local tracks. It was obvious "hand-me-down's" from his brother and sisters equipment and the AC Delco car.

Adam Petty also was a great driver in his own right.

[Wolfstar]

The issue isn't who else found your dragging a 19-year-old dead kid into this offensive. The issue is that I found it offensive and said so. Too bad you need 400 other people to fight your battles for you.

[DJ88]

"Sure hope Jr. doesn't beat the guy too severely."

LOL....that's not Jr.'s style. That's Tony Stewart you're thinking of, discostu.

I just got tired of the whining and complaining, so I picked up the phone and made some calls.

I hate it when people can't back up their story. So, I called him on it.

The author, Wolfstar, not you.

[Hatteras]

You didn't ping me... sniff...sniff...

[DJ88]

Usually when you post a story that is a controversial as this one is, the one great way to get people off your back is to say: "Posted for Discussion Only.....BTTT."

Try that next time and you may not have to get treated for 3rd degree burns.

[discostu]

Guess it's my style. Accusing somebody of cheating with no useful proof used to be dealt with mano-a-mano. Our kinder gentler society looks down on that now. IMHO the courts would be a lot less messed up if we still handled this kind of stuff the old fashioned way. Worked for Knievel.

[DJ88]

I highly doubt that I will ever be called as a witness. ;-)

But the author will. Of all the cars that teams could tamper with, this guy picks DEI.

Obviously, he doesn't know Teresa very well. She'll fight him tooth and nail if this is false. Ouch.

[pnz1]

Slugger Labbe, Mikey's crew cheif is expected to be penalized for an illegal carb..

[glock rocks]

bring marshmallows, this will get really interesting.

[Wolfstar]

Before responding to your suggestion, I want to take this opportunity to publically apologize for calling you a fool on this thread yesterday. You have proven me wrong, and I am proud of what you have done. If you get an answer, I'll be interested in knowing what he says.

As to your suggestion, thanks. But (truly not intending to be argumentative) I thought that all articles posted on FR are for discussion only. Perhaps I picked up a misconception about that somewhere along the way.

[Hatteras]

"I find it disturbing for the reasons I stated several times in this thread."

C'mon 3, dontchaknow, Wolfstar wouldn't have posted this article if he hadn't been concerned for Jr.'s safety.

It's fo' da chilrun, weez got to be cocernt fo' da chilrun!

[Wolfstar]

We'll see how many in the crowd #3fan called in for help can do their own reasoning and wind up getting it.

[Hatteras]

"The issue isn't who else found your dragging a 19-year-old dead kid into this offensive. The issue is that I found it offensive and said so."

Dude, you just destroyed all your credibility by attempting to throw up this smoke screen. This is pure Carville/Begala. Pity...

[Vigilantcitizen]

"The issue isn't who else found your dragging a 19-year-old dead kid into this offensive. The issue is that I found it offensive and said so. Too bad you need 400 other people to fight your battles for you."

Whatever.