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To: exmarine
Show you? That would be the 9th Amendment. Just because it is not explicitly listed in the Bill of Rights doesn't mean you don't have it. You have liberty - and what good is liberty if you don't have the freedom to exercise it? Your rights are not defined by the Government, and they are not granted by the Government. Just because the Founders didn't list them doesn't mean there are no such rights.

Since you are such a Constitutional scholar, you must agree that the 9th is not meaningless - that the people have retained rights not listed in the Constitution. Tell me - what are they? What unenumerated fundamental rights do you have?

531 posted on 07/08/2003 12:08:48 PM PDT by lugsoul
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To: lugsoul
Show you? That would be the 9th Amendment. Just because it is not explicitly listed in the Bill of Rights doesn't mean you don't have it.

I see...you can't show me. It's a phantom right.

You have liberty - and what good is liberty if you don't have the freedom to exercise it? Your rights are not defined by the Government, and they are not granted by the Government. Just because the Founders didn't list them doesn't mean there are no such rights.

Under this rationale, I could invent any right whatsoever! The right to be free from hearing the Gospel of Jesus Christ, the right to be free of hearing an opinion you don't like, the right to spread disease even though we know the societal impact of such folly, the right to take the life of the unborn, the right to engage in ANY SEXUAL BEHAVIOR WHATSOEVER (incest, sex with animals, sex with children). The door is now open for that. The oligarchs of the SCOTUS cannot say on one hand that homosexual sex is okay but that incest isn't!

These are not God-given rights. One thing is for sure. The right to privacy does not trump the right to life - the vice versa is true. That Elevating the right to privacy was merely an expedient to legalize abortion on demand. Such supremacy for the privacy right may be consistent with narcissistic hedonism, but I do not think it correlates well with absolute moral principles (e.g. God hates the shedding of innocent blood).

Since you are such a Constitutional scholar, you must agree that the 9th is not meaningless - that the people have retained rights not listed in the Constitution. Tell me - what are they? What unenumerated fundamental rights do you have?

You can't make up fundamental rights out of thin air. Common sense is involved. That is precisely why the founders stated over and over that our Constitution was "written for a moral and religious people and is inadequate for the government of any other." They knew the Constitution was worthless without virtue! Hence, we have the immoral state of affairs we have today. Total license for the evil elements of society and suppression of the evanescant good elements (e.g. persecution of the Boy Scouts and Christians). If it is good, it MUST BE DESTROYED becuase virtue reminds the reprobates of how evil they are so these reminders must be silenced!

534 posted on 07/08/2003 2:09:18 PM PDT by exmarine
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