[Jim Noble]

Where does he think the reformation occurred - China? He must be reading the new ABRIDGED history of Western Tradition. Europe today does not remotely resemble Europe of 300 years ago, especially Germany, Holland, Sweden, Switzerland and England - nations which had a very strong Christian base. Yes, today's Europe is cold and dead - and became so when they threw out God and adopted man as the moral standard-giver

I too am a Reformed Christian, but I greatly fear that what ties the nations you mention together is their fealty to my Reformation-and I fear that the "man as the moral standard-giver" may have been named Martin Luther.

[exmarine]

I too am a Reformed Christian, but I greatly fear that what ties the nations you mention together is their fealty to my Reformation-and I fear that the "man as the moral standard-giver" may have been named Martin Luther.

I see you had no argument to my observation about the globalist Breyer (who would be impeached is our Congress had any moral character or courage). I'll take Martin Luther over Jaques Chirac any day of the week. Martin Luther's authority was SOLA SCRIPTURA (by extension then, GOD is the moral standard-giver. Europe's authority is "human rights" as defined by men! Tell me, which is more authoritative and universal?

[exmarine]

I greatly fear that what ties the nations you mention together is their fealty to my Reformation-

This is laughable. You actually believe that today's european nations are tied together by reformation principles? Say it isn't so.

[ninenot]

You oughta look into Catholicism.

L. started the ball rolling and it blossomed (so to speak) with the French Revolution. Edmund Burke saw it clearly, then.