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To: mrobison
In the Lawrence v Texas case decided June 26, Justice Anthony Kennedy gave as a reason for overturning a Supreme Court ruling of 17 years earlier upholding sodomy laws that it was devoid of any reliance on the views of a "wider civilization."

What about the death penalty? Is that the next to go?

184 posted on 07/07/2003 8:58:02 AM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: SunStar
What about the death penalty? Is that the next to go?

Doubtful in the short term, but I can see its usage radically altered.

188 posted on 07/07/2003 9:00:31 AM PDT by steveegg (Close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, air-burst artillery and thermonuclear weapons)
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To: SunStar
Probably. There have been three Death Penalty cases this year in which the SC has whittled away the ability of states to apply the penalty and opened the door for even more appeals from the well-funded legal leftist establishment. In one case, the ruled the DP unconstitutional if the murderer's IQ was too low, in another they invalidated the DP statutes of several states because they allowed cases to be decided without a jury trial (states where a jury trial was held only if the defense insisted on it.) In the most recent case, they ruled that anyone facing capital charges had to be represented by "competent" counsel. Previously, if an attorney had passed the bar exam, they were considered "competent." Now the definition of competence has morphed so that the state (i.e. the taxpayers) are required to pay for high-priced "specialist" lawyers (on a list provided by the ACLU no dobt) to defend in capital cases. The death penalty will likely be abolished for all intents and purposes within two years' time.

With "international norms" now being defined as a "compelling interest" to negate the letter of our constitution, we can look forward to all sorts of mischief. Most people don't realize it yet, but the Grutter decision of the week before last effectively rendered the US Constitution a dead letter. Essentially, a "compelling interest" - which can be any sort of vague ideal since only the courts can define it - has been used to trump the constitution itself. The people on this forum are much better informed than most Americans, who are profoundly clueless about the issues involved. We need to do everything legally in our power to change this situation. One by one, our options for peacefully bringing about any change are disappearing.
284 posted on 07/07/2003 11:10:55 AM PDT by Bogolyubski
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