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Justice Breyer: U. S. Constitution should be subordinated to international will
WorldNetDaily ^ | July 7, 2003

Posted on 07/07/2003 7:00:07 AM PDT by mrobison

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To: tpaine
"This hardly establishes that the "US Constitution means whatever the currently sitting court thinks it means."

It doesn't matter. This goes waaaaaay beyond everything you've said. The fact of the matter remains that this is a LIBERAL...GLOBALIST court. My Lord, four of them are members of the Council on Foreign Relations! This is the best shot the globalists will ever have to destroy the 2nd Amendment. Have you read what CFR member Breyer just said about the Constitution? Do you think CFR members Ginsburg, O'Connor, and Stevens think any differently?

Stop thinking of these people like they're interested in maintaining the sovereignty of these United States! The 2nd Amendment and the 100 million lawful gunowners it protects is the final remaining obstacle to some form of global government. Get rid of the 2nd Amendment, pass the incremental laws on registration and eventual confiscation and it's all over.

Look don't get me wrong: Your arguments are well ordered, cogent, logical and thought provoking. They will appeal to the strict constructionists and freedom loving conservatives on the court, that is Scalia and Thomas will love them. But they won't matter in the end. In this most important of all matters, I think even the vote of Rhendquist may be in doubt. He's not CFR, but he didn't get to where he is by not knowing the music and the musicians...and the name of the tune. We need to get a few more Scalias and to do that we conservatives need a veto, and filibuster proof US Senate before we can begin to even remotely relax. Until then, we have to walk carefully and choose our battles with great care and careful timing.

442 posted on 07/07/2003 8:01:45 PM PDT by ExSoldier (M1911A1: The ORIGINAL "Point and Click" interface!)
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To: FreeReign
Article VI

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This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

I think this is the clause they intend to use to hold treaties equal in law with the Constitution. As I read it treaties are superior to State law based on this clause. That alone is scary stuff.

443 posted on 07/07/2003 8:40:21 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: RnMomof7
........but all of you good republicans will continue
to pay your income taxes, funding all of these traitors
to the constitution and the republic. you are all a bunch
of sheeple and do nothing but continue to pretend that
you do live in a constitutional republic when it no
longer exists. when are you going to wake up??
444 posted on 07/07/2003 8:45:34 PM PDT by jart (smash statism)
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To: mrobison
The world's nations should adopt our constitution.
445 posted on 07/07/2003 8:46:31 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta
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To: ExSoldier
Sorry, but I've been hearing that appeasment rhetoric from the Rinos since my Goldwater days.

It hasn't worked.
'Wait till next year' has become a political scam since Nixon.

NOW is as good a time as I've seen in 40 years to resolve our RKBA's issue.

- We can not lose, and the USSC knows it. That is why they refuse to face it.
446 posted on 07/07/2003 8:50:26 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak)
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To: OldFriend
The world is growing together in it's jealousy of the United States. It's hatred of the jewish people, and it's disregard for the rule of law.

I would add Christian people to that.

447 posted on 07/07/2003 9:44:23 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: mrsmith
If, in the opinion of the people, the distribution or modification of the constitutional powers be in any particular wrong, let it be corrected by an amendment in the way which the Constitution designates. But let there be no change by usurpation; for though this, in one instance, may be the instrument of good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed.

Worth repeating.

Thanks for finding and posting this golden nugget.

448 posted on 07/07/2003 10:02:44 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: tpaine
"We can not lose, and the USSC knows it."

Anytime somebody says "WE CAN'T LOSE" I know they're out of touch with reality, because losing is always a possibility in life. That's my final thought on this issue.

449 posted on 07/07/2003 10:06:09 PM PDT by ExSoldier (M1911A1: The ORIGINAL "Point and Click" interface!)
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To: ExSoldier
. We need to get a few more Scalias and to do that we conservatives need a veto, and filibuster proof US Senate before we can begin to even remotely relax. Until then, we have to walk carefully and choose our battles with great care and careful timing.

A few more Scalias is right. Anything short of that will spell failure for the great American experiment.

450 posted on 07/07/2003 10:37:44 PM PDT by Kryptonite (Free Miguel)
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To: jwalsh07
Let these liberals keep perverting the Constitution and come after my right to bare arms, and it will be time for:

Operation American Freedom!!!

The Liberation Of The American Constitution From A Corrupt Government.


From My Cold Dead Hands!!!

451 posted on 07/07/2003 10:47:26 PM PDT by TC Builders
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To: Alberta's Child
Your points are very apt.

What the praying minister and the commandment-posting-judge did are considered Civil Disobediance.

The Right can use these techniques also.

Do you noticed that our CD doesn't inconvenience and cost other citizens (unlike those anarchists lying down in the streets) ?

And we don't wear those stupid outfits!

452 posted on 07/07/2003 10:58:42 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: furnitureman
Source, please ?

Or did you write this yourself?

453 posted on 07/07/2003 11:13:33 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: ninenot

The 4th Amendment has nothing to do with this at all. Period.

Gimme a break!

Following that reasoning, the states would be allowed to enter your home to search for unregistered guns or undeclared income.

The 4th Amendment, as a part of the supreme law of the land, guarantees us that no branch of government, at any level, has a right to violate the privacy of your home without probable cause, usually backed up by a warrant, but always supported by oath or affirmation.  Since the Texas sodomy law violated that guarantee, the 4th Amendment has everything to do with it.

I wonder if you would feel the same about state laws that allowed police to enter your home on flimsy hearsay evidence, to search for guns.  Regardless of how much you may dislike queers, when you deny them their rights, you open the door to having your own similar rights denied.

I have no respect for queers.  They are either mentally or physically sick and they refuse to seek a cure.  Even so, I will defend their rights under the Constitution, just as I would defend yours.  An attack on the rights of one citizen, even a queer, is an attack on the rights of every citizen.  Like it or not, the 4th Amendment, as does the rest of the Constitution, protects all of us equally.

 

454 posted on 07/08/2003 12:39:55 AM PDT by Action-America (The next country to invade Europe has to keep France!)
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To: Action-America
At the contitutional convention, Governeur Morris gave a long impassioned speech objecting to impeachment, so that the president would not be looking over his shoulder. Upon the conclusion of the speech, Benjamin Franklin asked to be recognized. "If the President could not be removed by impeachment, he could be removed by assination." Branklin sat. Stunned silence. Governeur Morris asked once again to be recognized. "I withdraw my previous objection to impeachment."

and that is how we got impeachment.
455 posted on 07/08/2003 2:33:30 AM PDT by donmeaker (Safety is NO Accident!)
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To: mrobison
Based on those remarks from Mr. Breyer, I think it is high time we went back to a form of isolationism. Our sovreignty is too important to be decided by the whims of EU socialists and their allies in the U.N.
456 posted on 07/08/2003 2:38:59 AM PDT by StoneColdTaxHater
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To: FreeReign
Treaties do override the constitution, mores the pity. For example Gongress has the power granted in the Constitution to issue letters of marque and reprisal. Said power is limited by treaty, and if one was issued, the captured foreign enemy merchanct would have a case to sue in US courts that the issued Letter was in violation of treaties which ban the use of private vessels as privateers.
457 posted on 07/08/2003 2:41:11 AM PDT by donmeaker (Safety is NO Accident!)
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To: Kryptonite
O'connor was ranked "qualified" rather than "well qualified" when she was nominated. Female talent was thin, so Reagan had to go way down to a second rate pol from a western state, instead of getting the woman he should have nominated: Phyllis Schafly
458 posted on 07/08/2003 2:43:43 AM PDT by donmeaker (Safety is NO Accident!)
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To: rep-always
"That this man sits on this court and can speak this way is a travesty" My friend and to all my Freeper friends: That this individual or any individual who pretends to represent the U.S.A., speaks this way is a travesty and just about all of them do it. Key words here: Global community, community, globalization, internationalism, democracy, democratic, democratize. The preceding words are all part of the new world order of things and like I said, just about all politicians of both political stripes use these words in describing America or the world.
459 posted on 07/08/2003 2:55:53 AM PDT by rambo316
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To: donmeaker
Schlafly. I wish Dubya would nominate her for the next opening. Just to see the Senate scream.
460 posted on 07/08/2003 3:30:31 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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