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Justice Breyer: U. S. Constitution should be subordinated to international will
WorldNetDaily ^ | July 7, 2003

Posted on 07/07/2003 7:00:07 AM PDT by mrobison

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To: RightWhale
But convenient.
281 posted on 07/07/2003 11:05:03 AM PDT by Old Professer
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To: Porterville
How in the world does anyone think the USA would give up it's constitutional rights without going into a global civil war??? The nation was almost destroyed 140 years ago when the Union took away Southern liberties.... The only choice is for the world to join our constitution or be crushed...their is no other way; Bryer sees the world backwards, I bet he has only travelled to Europe and Canada and really has no concept at just how impossibly correct the USA's constitution is towards individualistic human liberties.

Unfortunately, many of our rights have ALREADY been given up! Where in the Constitution is federal income tax legal? Where does it say that churches cannot exercise their freedom of speech when it comes to political candidates? Use of eminent domain to steal private property (so much for property rights), the Federal Reserve... The list is lengthy.

282 posted on 07/07/2003 11:06:29 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: deport
Yep Newtie got his just rewards also fromt he good 'true conservatives' I'd guess.

Conservatives voted enthusiastically for Gingrich's conservative ideas in 1994, an election in which the GOP did rather well.

Then, in 1998, Gingrich tried a less confrontational, more centrist approach, and almost lost Congress.

What's the lesson here?

Votes that win elections are the medium of exchange in the political marketplace. If one is going to succeed in the business of politics, don't take your customer base for granted, or some of them may take a hike.


283 posted on 07/07/2003 11:08:13 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: SunStar
Probably. There have been three Death Penalty cases this year in which the SC has whittled away the ability of states to apply the penalty and opened the door for even more appeals from the well-funded legal leftist establishment. In one case, the ruled the DP unconstitutional if the murderer's IQ was too low, in another they invalidated the DP statutes of several states because they allowed cases to be decided without a jury trial (states where a jury trial was held only if the defense insisted on it.) In the most recent case, they ruled that anyone facing capital charges had to be represented by "competent" counsel. Previously, if an attorney had passed the bar exam, they were considered "competent." Now the definition of competence has morphed so that the state (i.e. the taxpayers) are required to pay for high-priced "specialist" lawyers (on a list provided by the ACLU no dobt) to defend in capital cases. The death penalty will likely be abolished for all intents and purposes within two years' time.

With "international norms" now being defined as a "compelling interest" to negate the letter of our constitution, we can look forward to all sorts of mischief. Most people don't realize it yet, but the Grutter decision of the week before last effectively rendered the US Constitution a dead letter. Essentially, a "compelling interest" - which can be any sort of vague ideal since only the courts can define it - has been used to trump the constitution itself. The people on this forum are much better informed than most Americans, who are profoundly clueless about the issues involved. We need to do everything legally in our power to change this situation. One by one, our options for peacefully bringing about any change are disappearing.
284 posted on 07/07/2003 11:10:55 AM PDT by Bogolyubski
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To: Sabertooth
or some of them may take a hike.


Yep them 'true conservatives' seem to take a hike frequently......

Heck in 2000 17% of the self professed conservatives voted for Gore and 19% of the self professed religious right voted Gore....

So yes hikes are frequent it seems..... but that's the option available to all who choose to vote.
286 posted on 07/07/2003 11:17:27 AM PDT by deport (On a hot day don't kick a cow chip...... only democrat enablers..)
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To: freedomsnotfree
Stolen from GKChesterton, who actually stated it better in the original.
287 posted on 07/07/2003 11:18:36 AM PDT by ninenot (Joe McCarthy was RIGHT, but Drank Too Much)
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To: Bogolyubski
Usually, by the time you realize something is wrong, it is altogether wrong and altogether too late to make it right.
288 posted on 07/07/2003 11:18:42 AM PDT by Old Professer
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To: deport
And the option available to politicians is to stick to principles. Rare--but it happens. Ron Paul didn't lose often. Jim Sensenbrenner NEVER lost.
289 posted on 07/07/2003 11:19:52 AM PDT by ninenot (Joe McCarthy was RIGHT, but Drank Too Much)
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To: freedomsnotfree
I pray everyone that is currently in and out of the military, in and out of law enforcement and in and out of all the alphabett soap agencies read this. A morter has just been fired across the bow of freedom. These folks are going to be ordered to do some VERY unconstitutional things. Pray for our country.

Most of the people in out military are scattered across the planet, cleaning up the mess in Europe's back yard. It's going to be a little hard for them to help out.

Law Enforcement?! Their labor unions have been working to gut our rights to be armed for decades. And the argument that the rank and file are pro 2nd amendment is meaningless because the rank and file have been voting the gun-grabbers into FOP leadership. If they believed in our rights, they would not allow their own leadership to lobby for gun control laws.

The alphabet agencies?! You mean the ones like BATF? There's a freedom loving agency if I've ever seen one [/sarcasm]. FBI? The same group of half-wits who pretty much let 9/11 happen because doing real investigative work might have offended the multicultural types.

I'm not trying to be an a$$hole here (I'm told I don't have to "try", it just happens with little effort on my part;) ), but we're on our own and have been for a long, long time.

290 posted on 07/07/2003 11:20:43 AM PDT by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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To: Bogolyubski
If Satan can quote scripture, he sure as hades can whisper penumbras into Breyer, O'Connor, Ginsburg, and Souter's ears. By not acknowledging the true enemy, we fall to his wiles.
291 posted on 07/07/2003 11:20:49 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: rintense
This is truly incredible. I am at a loss for words.

Bump.

292 posted on 07/07/2003 11:25:39 AM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: mrobison
This is truly frightening.
293 posted on 07/07/2003 11:27:40 AM PDT by truthkeeper
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To: steveegg
'ya forgot shotguns.....
294 posted on 07/07/2003 11:29:41 AM PDT by logic ("all that is required for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing")
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To: M. Peach
I thought it had a nice report.........(bang!)
296 posted on 07/07/2003 11:36:47 AM PDT by logic ("all that is required for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing")
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To: Orangedog
Ah, the JBT's, America's real standing army.

The military is uncomfortably filled with patriots. The Blue helmets of the UN are dismally incompetent. Imagine a couple truckloads of poorly armed Pakistanis trying to take over the local Beagle Club. Not a chance.

It's the various Alpha's that have been built up specifically for the task at hand. They've had their dress rehearsals, they've been bumped up by what, about a hundred eighty thousand more after 911. They've been given ever more control over the local guys.

We're worse than on our own.
297 posted on 07/07/2003 11:37:30 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud, hatch out!)
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To: freedomsnotfree
I'll never forget. That is where Bush1 lost the election. He was also very high in the polls at that time. Bush is responsible for his own loss. It was never "read my lips" like the spin goes. Bush lost his base with the ONe World Order.
298 posted on 07/07/2003 11:38:12 AM PDT by texastoo
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To: freedomsnotfree
Do you really believe, for one second, bush loves the constitution? Please, all joking aside, tell me what leads you to believe this.

You expect a response?

How does that saying go? Logic and reason are the mortal enemy of the Left Bushbots, who rely on emotion and feelings.

299 posted on 07/07/2003 11:45:54 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus (if we're not going to act like a constitutional republic...lets be the best empire we can be...)
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