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God...not G-d

Posted on 07/07/2003 3:50:21 AM PDT by grumple

In light of the many perversions and jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke, it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking. Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayton asked her "How could God let something like this happen?" (regarding the attacks on Sept. 11). Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives. And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?" In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK.

Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school ... the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.

Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.

Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member in this school better touch a student when they misbehave because we don't want any bad publicity, and we surely don't want to be sued (there's a big difference between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking, etc.). And we said OK. Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want, and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK. Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms they want so they can have all the fun they desire, and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we said OK

Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them, we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President, does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.

Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty of the female body. And we said OK. And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and published pictures of nude children and then further again by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK, they're entitled to free speech.

Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music that encourages rape, drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes. And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect, nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.

Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.

Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."

Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says.

Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing.

Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.

Are you laughing?

Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they WILL think of you for sending it. Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us than what God thinks of us.

Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it... no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process, don't sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!


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To: holden
Personally, I don't see either as 'right' or 'wrong'.............those who choose to express His name as G-d do so out of reverence and love; those who choose to say it out loud or write it out do so for the same reason.

My opinion is that such a debate falls under the squabbling that we were cautioned about. Regards.

41 posted on 07/07/2003 5:32:14 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (For or against us.........)
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To: grumple
The problems with email is that they are rarely factually true.
42 posted on 07/07/2003 5:32:21 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
I rarely forward e-mail, because I get sick of people forwarding to me. The subject matter here just struck me as profound.
43 posted on 07/07/2003 5:35:05 AM PDT by grumple
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To: Catspaw
Spelling God as G-d is exactly like spelling Dog as D-g. A "God" is a deity. The word "God" is a noun, not someones name.

It SHOULD be readily apparent that using "God" instead of "Jehova" is already honoring the Judeo-Christian deity by not using his name.

44 posted on 07/07/2003 5:37:08 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: varon
Would one then show the same honor when speaking the word by saying "Gee (G) dash (-) dee (d)" as in "Oh my Gee dash dee" ?

Many Christians thought so at one time, apparently:

gee (see 2nd def.)
golly
gosh

All ways to avoid taking the Lord's name in vain.

However, as I understand it, the custom of omitting the "o" from the name of God is not just to show respect but to prevent a (witting or unwitting) third party from showing disrespect. Spoken speech is not a permanent form and can't be defaced.

45 posted on 07/07/2003 5:37:52 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: grumple
It is profound. One of the best I have read.
46 posted on 07/07/2003 5:38:40 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Dead Corpse
It SHOULD be readily apparent that using "God" instead of "Jehova" is already honoring the Judeo-Christian deity by not using his name.

Is it your intent to insult Orthodox Jews or are you just flaming for flame's sake?

47 posted on 07/07/2003 5:40:48 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: He Rides A White Horse
I understood #41 as fully contained in #33.
Regards,
HF
48 posted on 07/07/2003 5:42:02 AM PDT by holden
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To: Dead Corpse
yet you don't see the faithful saying "J-piter" or "Ath-na".

For that matter, you don't see the faithful of Jupiter or Athena saying much of anything lately...

49 posted on 07/07/2003 5:45:40 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Catspaw
I never saw this practice (of writing "G-d") until quite recently, and only on the Internet. Growing up as a frequent reader of a broad range of political, religious, and philosophic literature, it was something I never encountered among authors of any faith. My guess is that it's something "new age."
50 posted on 07/07/2003 5:45:59 AM PDT by zook
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To: Catspaw
Is it your intent to insult Orthodox Jews or are you just flaming for flame's sake?

Neither. Just pointing out the fact that the failure of our education systems seems to extend to religious "Sunday" schools as well.

Do you disagree that the proper name for the Judeo-Christian deity is in fact "JHVH/IHVH/Jehova"?

51 posted on 07/07/2003 5:47:38 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: zook
New Age?

See my post #4.

52 posted on 07/07/2003 5:47:45 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Dead Corpse
Which came first: Judaism or Christianity?
53 posted on 07/07/2003 5:48:38 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: LindaSOG
"Normally, we avoid writing the Name by substituting letters or syllables, for example, writing "G-d" instead."

The problem is you have simply replaced one symbol for another with the exact same meaning and intention. It is simply symbolism. We just happen to use a small circle to represent the "ah" sound. A "-" or "#" or "@" used in its place still has the same meaning. Honorable and good intentions but in the scheme of world events meaningless.

54 posted on 07/07/2003 5:48:58 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (I have the biggest organ in my town {;o))
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To: hellinahandcart
For that matter, you don't see the faithful of Jupiter or Athena saying much of anything lately...

I know of a couple of people that are Grecco/Roman revivalists. Just because they are no longer making headlines doesn't mean they aren't still there....

55 posted on 07/07/2003 5:49:06 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: grumple
Some people write/type the name out that way for their own religious reasons. Who am I to dictate to them what is right for their religious beliefs?
56 posted on 07/07/2003 5:49:54 AM PDT by mhking
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To: Catspaw
Which came first: Judaism or Christianity?

Are you trying to be funny?

57 posted on 07/07/2003 5:52:15 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Catspaw; LindaSOG
Thanks for the ping, but LindaSOG seems to explained it well in 23, including the evolving consideration of the internet as a non permanent source.

Got it right about shame and ridicule as well.

60 posted on 07/07/2003 5:56:58 AM PDT by SJackson
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