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How Howard Dean Is Winning The Web
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| Monday, Jul. 14, 2003
| CHRIS TAYLOR/SAN RAFAEL
Posted on 07/06/2003 5:30:45 PM PDT by jern
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posted on
07/06/2003 5:30:45 PM PDT
by
jern
To: jern
This needs a "Gag Alert" or something similar.
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posted on
07/06/2003 5:37:03 PM PDT
by
Ken522
To: Ken522
Why? I don't see anything non-factual. "Gag alert" only if you are a supporter of one of the other 8.
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posted on
07/06/2003 5:45:32 PM PDT
by
nwrep
To: jern
Dean seems to be tapping into a seam of online middle-class resentment.Do these people know what Dean's tax policy will do to their take home pay?
To: jern
"Dean may not have Gephardt's solid union support, but he is assembling a different kind of volunteer force, one made up of passionate and often disgruntled believers."
Deans support reminds me of George McGovern's in '72. They can take the demonrat primary, but will lose big time in the general election!
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posted on
07/06/2003 6:01:53 PM PDT
by
SwinneySwitch
(Freedom is not Free - Support the Troops!)
To: SwinneySwitch
DON'T WORRY ABOUT HOWARD THE DUCK HE JUST SHOT HIMSELF IN THE BUTT,WITH THE DNC!!!!
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posted on
07/06/2003 6:07:35 PM PDT
by
jocko12
To: jern
Oh whatever!
Dean's a nutcase that will be selling colidal silver by december of next year.
I don't give a crap how much he's raised, it's not enough to offset his crazy notions and general scaryness.
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posted on
07/06/2003 6:13:52 PM PDT
by
Jhoffa_
(BREAKING: Supreme Court Finds Right to Sodomy, Sammy & Frodo elated.)
To: Miss Marple; Howlin; PhiKapMom
Dean..... the current media darlin'....
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posted on
07/06/2003 6:25:38 PM PDT
by
deport
(Don't kick a cow patty on a hot day........... just a dem enabler)
To: SwinneySwitch
Deans support reminds me of George McGovern's in '72. They can take the demonrat primary, but will lose big time in the general election! The old time labor unions in 72 believed that it was better to not take sides in a primary election. So they didn't. Today there is a new generation of leaders in the trade and factory worker unions. They are strongly considering entering into the primary contests. If they do their choice will be Gephardt. If they enter the fray Gephardt will win the election.
Money is only valuable to candidates as a means to run advertising to persuade voters to vote for you. The unions can put hundreds of thousands of votes in a candidates column and not give the candidate a penny. But Unions do more than just exercise their political machine. They give money to candidates they support and that amount of money makes the three million raised by Dean on the web look like peanuts.
We are not into the real primary season yet. Dean has not debated the other Democrats for the nomination. They will eat him alive. We know Dean does not have a good staff or a quick brain. Who with a brain would brag that he was breaking into the Democratic country club, just after his son was arrested for breaking into a Country Club.
Plus no Democrat with a brain would admit wanting to be in a country club. Dean can't get the working class base so important to a democratic victory by talking about the Democrats having a country club for him to break into.
While Dean was raising 7 plus million as a governor preparing to run for the presidency, I would remind you that Governor Bush was 4 years ago raising 20 million dollars. Dean as a governor candidate for a party nomination is about 1/3 of a Dubya as a fund raiser.
Dean still has not raised as much money as some other democrats. He has just raised more money in the last quarter and he has raised it on the web. Many of the other candidates have lists of supporters that they can contact directly.Most candidates will raise money as early as possible so they don't have to raise money during the primary campaign. If they money is Pac or Union money they will try to get it before the season starts so no one snoops into who gave what. I think the others will allow Dean to bragg about fund raising. Drawing attention to your fund raising is like Gary Hart Drawing attention to his sex life. It most likely will come back to byte you.
It is anohter indication of the amateur status of Dean.
Gephardt, Lieberman, and some of the others have huge databases of donors. They may not need to beg on the web.
But Deans problem is not money. He is a cocky amatuer that does not know when to shut up. He will most likely shoot himself in the foot. The best you can say aboute him is he talks before he thinks. That is a terrible flaw.
To: jern
He's winning the web? That's not quite the same as the Electoral College.
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posted on
07/06/2003 6:28:54 PM PDT
by
Republican Wildcat
(Help us elect Republicans in Kentucky! Click on my name for links to all the 2003 candidates!)
To: jern
"I don't think average Joes are on the Internet using their credit cards to give you $25," scoffs Gephardt campaign official Steve Elmendorf. The Internet is a middle class, not a lower class, phenomenon. Since the Democrats appeal to everyone who does not consider themselves middle class--either "poor" or "got-mine-Jack" elite--the Internet is more of a natural tool for the party of the middle class, the Republicans. But of course all that is relative--the Republicans attract a majority of the middle class, the Democrats attract a majority of the rich--and a large majority of "the poor." So apparently the sort of middle class person who will be a Democrat inclines to favor Dean.
Comment #12 Removed by Moderator
To: jocko12
Actually, I smell a rat, as far as Dean and the DNC is concerned. This is a win-win for Dean and HILLARY, should Dean get the Nomination, because he will either LOSE and set Hillary up for 2008.
Dean is being used to get rid of all the competition, so that in 2008, the Dems will be looking at Hillary as a savior of their party, and no one will question her.
However, I believe that Cheney will step down, and Condi will slide in there, to challenge the creature in 08.
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posted on
07/06/2003 6:49:00 PM PDT
by
Pukin Dog
(Sans Reproache)
To: jern
Online polls are a joke, they are not scientific and are easily biased by those who would DUpe them.
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posted on
07/06/2003 7:13:35 PM PDT
by
weegee
To: Republican Wildcat
He's winning the web? That's not quite the same as the Electoral College. If Michael Moore and Albert Gore Junior had their way, there wouldn't be an electoral college.
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posted on
07/06/2003 7:19:14 PM PDT
by
weegee
To: weegee
Ah, but they aren't getting their way. Isn't that nice? :-)
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posted on
07/06/2003 7:25:49 PM PDT
by
Republican Wildcat
(Help us elect Republicans in Kentucky! Click on my name for links to all the 2003 candidates!)
To: jern
Someone should ask the good Doctor if he gets a perverse kick out of hearing the sound made by sucking the brains out of a viable fetus during an abortion.
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posted on
07/06/2003 7:33:10 PM PDT
by
lawdude
(KAKKATE KOI!)
To: deport
He sure does seem to be the media darling right now! Just goes to show how far left the mainstream (what a misnomer)press has become!
This should get interesting since he stepped in it big time against the clintons and mcauliffe. Wonder what color of daisies he would like?
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posted on
07/06/2003 8:26:29 PM PDT
by
PhiKapMom
(Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
To: jern
FreeRepublic could do things like this if we weren't endlessly flooded with hundreds of articles that have nothing to do with being conservative. We've lost our sense of community...
Here's how it works: Last Wednesday those 55,000 Dean supporters were directed by Meetup to go to 310 locations across the U.S. at 7 p.m. local time. There they were each given the addresses of three undecided Democrats in Iowa and asked to send handwritten letters to them. Campaigns are charged $2,500 for the service, a deal referred to by Meetup's founders as the Trippi special. Dean is by far the most popular candidate on Meetup, with Kerry a distant second.
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posted on
07/07/2003 3:43:51 AM PDT
by
GOPJ
To: weegee
Actually, his on-line fund raising is not entirely honest. I sent him $10.00 last week because of the email he sent me.
It read:
"Hi, I'm a doctor. I can't give you a tax break, but I can add size and girth to your portfolio."
Hell, I thought "portfolio" was code for my "dinger," and I was more than willing to send some money.
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posted on
07/07/2003 3:50:21 AM PDT
by
Bluntpoint
(Not there! Yes, there!)
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