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To: Hajman
No, it wouldn't, since you haven't actually taken any goods or services away from the store or manufacturer.

Intellectual property can be stolen; the law says so. In this example, you have taken away the knowledge of the design elements of the thing with intent to convert them to your own use and profit, and you have probably trespassed as well by walking into the store and taking the picture without the owner's permission. How many times do we have to say that "theft is theft" before some of you start to get it?

It could be considered copyright infringment if you make the blade yourself, however it's not theft, since nothing was actually removed from the owner (the store in this case).

If you sell said blades and cut into the sales of the original designer, it could very well be considered theft. You can steal intellectual property just as much as you can steal a ham or a car.

BTW, people take pictures of copyrighted ideas all the time without permission. Specific car brands on roads is a big one.

A false analogy. Car manufacturers don't care if people take photos of their products. Artists, record labels, and RIAA DO care very much if people make unauthorized copies of their product. And, its their call if they want to care or not, and its their call if they want to try to do something within the law to stop the theft.

124 posted on 07/06/2003 6:40:44 PM PDT by strela ("Each of us can find a maggot in our past which will happily devour our futures." Horatio Hornblower)
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To: strela
Intellectual property can be stolen; the law says so. In this example, you have taken away the knowledge of the design elements of the thing with intent to convert them to your own use and profit, and you have probably trespassed as well by walking into the store and taking the picture without the owner's permission. How many times do we have to say that "theft is theft" before some of you start to get it?

The only way to steal intellectual property is to claim it as yours. A copy isn't stolen intellectual property. The claim that the picture was taken without permission is an entirely different argument (and not a very valid one at that, since one can take pictures of any public item, as long as security doesn't fit into it).

If you sell said blades and cut into the sales of the original designer, it could very well be considered theft. You can steal intellectual property just as much as you can steal a ham or a car.

If you sell the blades, then you're commiting a copyright infringment, not theft (cutting into someone else's sells is a potential value loss, which isn't illegal, which I've specified a couple times now). Theft of intellectual property is the same as stealing a car or ham, I agree. However, in order to steal it, you need to claim it as your own, or at least remove it from the owner (claiming it as your own creates an infered removal from the owner). Copying IP on an extra medium isn't doing that (the IP hasn't changed, and you're not claiming it as your own or making money off of it. The only thing changed is the medium, which is yours).

A false analogy. Car manufacturers don't care if people take photos of their products. Artists, record labels, and RIAA DO care very much if people make unauthorized copies of their product. And, its their call if they want to care or not, and its their call if they want to try to do something within the law to stop the theft.

This argument falls under copyright infringment, not theft. Calling everything theft, doesn't make it so. Theft has a specific meaning, and consequences, and it doesn't apply to this.

-The Hajman-
130 posted on 07/06/2003 6:50:57 PM PDT by Hajman
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