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Woman Allegedly Throws Sons Into River (unidentified man rescued one child)
ap ^ | 7/6/2003 | ap

Posted on 07/06/2003 7:52:27 AM PDT by TLBSHOW

Woman Allegedly Throws Her Twin Infant Sons Into Mississippi River; One Child Still Missing

The Associated Press

ST. PAUL, Minn. July 6 — A woman allegedly threw her twin infant sons off a bridge into the Mississippi River, then jumped in herself, screaming incoherently as she fell 75 feet to the water, police said.

Several people who were at the river's edge for the city's July Fourth fireworks display Friday jumped in after them. A man rescued one of the 11-month-old boys, then pulled the mother to safety with the help of others.

By then, the second boy had disappeared, said police Cmdr. Brian Coyle.

Naomi Gaines, 24, and the rescued boy were expected to recover, though Gaines remained hospitalized Sunday and doctors were concerned that she could have internal injuries, Coyle said.

The other child was still missing Sunday and presumed drowned, Coyle said. Divers could not be sent into the river to search because of a swift current.

Coyle said Gaines, who has no criminal record, could face charges as early as Monday. She also has a 7-year-old son and a 4-year-old daughter, neighbors said.

She dropped the twins over the 5-foot railing of a bridge, then climbed over and jumped, witnesses said.

Coyle said the unidentified man who led the rescue of Gaines and her son put himself in harm's way by swimming out into the powerful current.

"It was heroic," Coyle said. "I'm impressed that a citizen would jump into the river and do what he did."

Witnesses said the woman kept screaming and resisted her rescuers.

"We were just sitting there, and we heard her screaming," said Erin Mac, who was among thousands of people at the river's edge. "She just kept screaming these bloodcurdling screams."


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: billiejomcallister; mycousinknowsclay; river; sons; tallahasseebridge; throws; woman
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To: TheCrusader
I think The Spotted Owl missed this Liberty Belles article titled "WHEN MOMS ATTACK". I have met TheSpottedOwl and she is a very nice lady. I think you two just got off on the wrong foot.
61 posted on 07/08/2003 11:59:29 AM PDT by Feiny (Ya want to make $14 the hard way?)
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To: TLBSHOW
Did anyone happen to notice the names of the kids...

Sincere Understanding Allah

Supreme Knowledge Allah

When someone names their kids like that they should be watch very carefully, as they may be unstable.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-07-07-twins-river_x.htm

62 posted on 07/08/2003 12:07:45 PM PDT by bird4four4
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To: TheSpottedOwl
I think The Crusader may be referring to the fact that many times men & women are held to different standards when it comes to murder and violence. The male is always seen as "just a bad guy" and the women "must be mentally ill". Check out this site for some stories on female violence....more common that you know: http://www.dadi.org/violntsx.htm
63 posted on 07/08/2003 12:08:06 PM PDT by Feiny (Ya want to make $14 the hard way?)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
"I'm beginning to think that some women who make posts in here are possessed by the devil.

You went too far this time. Heck, my HTML went out the window on that last post. You have a very real problem with women. Deal with it elsewhere. Nope, haven't hit the abuse button. The day I can't debate someone without whining to mommy, is the day I hang up my mouse.

I suppose next you are going to tell me that homosexual perverts were born that way and can't help themselves.

Tell ya what: I'd rather invite some gay dude to my next bbq than you!!! Where the hell do you get off spewing hate speech on this website? We're talking about a tragedy, but you twist everyone's words, then you start quoting the bible? You inject crap about homosexuals into a thread that has nothing to do with homosexuality? Now you are a complete total asshole...."

Applause!!! Well done.

64 posted on 07/08/2003 12:18:36 PM PDT by trisham
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To: TheCrusader
you act surprised....as a MAN, i KNOW that ALL the evil deeds and circumstances in the world, are, in fact, MY FAULT....
65 posted on 07/08/2003 12:26:58 PM PDT by Capt.YankeeMike (get outta my pocket, outta my car, and outta the schools)
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To: bird4four4
When someone names their kids like that they should be watch very carefully, as they may be unstable.

Uhh ohh...I was trying to tell this one poster that we need to wait and hear more info. Sincere and Supreme? Good holy God.

66 posted on 07/08/2003 12:58:16 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (You bring tar, I'll bring feathers....recall Davis in 03!!!)
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To: bird4four4
which one was saved.....sincere understanding or supreme knowledge ?
67 posted on 07/08/2003 1:16:59 PM PDT by Feiny (Ya want to make $14 the hard way?)
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To: feinswinesuksass
I've never seen it, but it is an interesting read.

I am not anti-mother and I don't want to ban motherhood, but I do support reasonable mom-control laws like background checks, licensing & registration, waiting periods and a limit on the number of children one mother can raise. After all, isn't it worth it if it saves just one child?

Oh boy, how do they plan to implement that? I know for sure that I'm going to quit joking that I had four kids(first one at eighteen..didn't even know how to change a diaper)and managed to keep them all in one piece...

68 posted on 07/08/2003 1:17:37 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (You bring tar, I'll bring feathers....recall Davis in 03!!!)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
I wrote that line as a parody of what the gun grabbing mommies spout. It was a joke, of course.
69 posted on 07/08/2003 1:21:56 PM PDT by Feiny (Ya want to make $14 the hard way?)
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To: feinswinesuksass
She was charged with murder in the death of Sincere Understanding Allah, and with the attempted murder of his brother, Supreme Knowledge Allah, who survived
70 posted on 07/08/2003 1:31:35 PM PDT by bird4four4
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To: bird4four4
Now that is name one must live up to....
71 posted on 07/08/2003 1:39:37 PM PDT by Feiny (Ya want to make $14 the hard way?)
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To: feinswinesuksass
Imagine the presure when the teacher calls on you... " Ok, Supreme Knowledge, do you know the answer to...."
72 posted on 07/08/2003 1:46:32 PM PDT by bird4four4
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To: feinswinesuksass
Hi there!

Thanks for the link. Many years ago, the Los Angeles Times ran a week long story about how this woman abused her baby boy over several years until she killed him. It was awful. I couldn't comprehend how someone could do what she did. It was disgusting. I lost the article, but I can still see that baby's face :(

The whole problem that I tried to explain is that there is a genetic and cultural standard where, when a woman kills, it's almost beyond comprehension. We expect men to be violent, but a woman killing her baby? It's cultural. and beyond our understanding. I'm not saying it's right. I never said it was right.

"Husband's 'butt crack' begets stabbing death". Hmm, a fifteen yr old blasting death metal to the left of me, a front yard full of kids doing some weird chant to invoke God to get rid of the neighbors across the street to the right of me. Plumber's crack, hahaha! Hell, a plumbers crack would be a wecome sight. They're all in the house now. Help me...

73 posted on 07/08/2003 3:10:24 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (You bring tar, I'll bring feathers....recall Davis in 03!!!)
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To: feinswinesuksass
which one was saved.....sincere understanding or supreme knowledge ?

My bad, I totally cracked up over that.

74 posted on 07/08/2003 3:50:08 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (You bring tar, I'll bring feathers....recall Davis in 03!!!)
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