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1 posted on 07/05/2003 8:19:20 AM PDT by hiho hiho
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To: hiho hiho
The teenager had broken into Stordahl’s garage and started a fire, then advanced on the homeowner even after being warned to stop. An autopsy revealed that Choate had a blood alcohol content of 0.31, almost four times the legal limit to drive. Family and friends say he might have been confused and thought he was in his own garage.

Ok...I don't know the whole "Choate" story here, but I'm having a hard time finding the problem here. If the homeowner was in danger, the BAC of the perp shouldn't matter. Neither should what his family and friends say that they think he was doing there.
2 posted on 07/05/2003 8:26:01 AM PDT by July 4th
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To: hiho hiho
As if we don't suffer enough with the alphabet channels, the NYT, the Wasington comPost and CNN, now we have the BBC in our faces too??
3 posted on 07/05/2003 8:30:17 AM PDT by OldFriend ((BUSH/CHENEY 2004))
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To: hiho hiho
Anybody got a link to the "Choate" story?
5 posted on 07/05/2003 8:33:10 AM PDT by stands2reason
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To: hiho hiho
If the BBC is doing this investigative journalism, you can be assured that the report will be a dishonest, left-wing hack job.
7 posted on 07/05/2003 8:49:17 AM PDT by AF68
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To: hiho hiho; rontorr
In the local incident, a grand jury decided that homeowner Linn Stordahl was justified in shooting Anthony Choate on April 19.

Thank the Lord that Oregon is not yet like England in this regard.

10 posted on 07/05/2003 8:54:58 AM PDT by jimtorr
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To: hiho hiho
"The teenager had broken into Stordahl’s garage and started a fire."

Here in Florida arson is a forcible felony. The use of deadly force by citizens is justified to stop or prevent a forcible felony.

11 posted on 07/05/2003 9:00:52 AM PDT by bruoz
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To: hiho hiho
A question that's a little off-side, can anyone tell me the correct pronunciation of that name "Choate"?
12 posted on 07/05/2003 9:16:09 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Googolplex Star Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: hiho hiho
An autopsy revealed that Choate had a blood alcohol content of 0.31,almost four
times the legal limit to drive.


The shooter should have gotten a reward.
Say something like 5 or 10 percent of the future liver transplant this guy
would probably have been provided at taxpayer expense while incarcerated.
15 posted on 07/05/2003 9:27:04 AM PDT by VOA
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To: hiho hiho; Travis McGee; Squantos; Pete-R-Bilt
The burglar who survived, Brendon Fearon, plans to sue Martin for the leg wound he suffered.

yet another compelling argument for:
two to the chest, one to the head.

16 posted on 07/05/2003 9:27:24 AM PDT by glock rocks (-- BBC is every bit as objective and accurate as CNN)
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“The issue so troubled Tony Blair that he wondered in a memo, which was leaked, whether (the) Labour (Party) was losing touch with public opinion,”

Violation of the man's natural right to self-defense apparently didn't bother Tony at all. Nope, what mattered to Tony was re-election.

18 posted on 07/05/2003 9:36:24 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (California: Where government is pornography, every day!)
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To: SAMWolf
Oregon ping.
23 posted on 07/05/2003 9:58:24 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: hiho hiho
Works for me..

Some folks jes need killin'

25 posted on 07/05/2003 10:04:26 AM PDT by Jhoffa_ (It could be carried by an African swallow..)
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To: Mulder
ping

Are you familiar with this one?
29 posted on 07/05/2003 12:01:09 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: hiho hiho
In the Oregon case, the local liberal paper (Statesman Journal) tried everything it could to paint Choate as just a good kid who made a mistake. The criminal's delinquent friends have been harassing the home owner. This city, Salem Oregon has a police force that was gutted by a liberal mayor, so it's either self defence or be a victim.
32 posted on 07/05/2003 12:58:50 PM PDT by aimhigh
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“There is a lobby in this country that says the average man has the right to protect himself , and damn the cost,” Johnston said. “The Choate case provides a cautionary note to say this is not always the way to go. This kind of thing can happen.”

The BBC is not merely biased, it's out of its %$^#ing mind.

33 posted on 07/05/2003 1:12:47 PM PDT by The Hon. Galahad Threepwood
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To: hiho hiho
It's not just a gun issue. The British seem to have an aversion to defending themselves against any kind of assault. I knew a young man who was attacked by two others with knives in a robbery attempt. He managed go twist one's arm around and stab the attacker in the thigh with his own knife. The victim recieved over five hundred stitches and a charge which would be our equivalent of assault with a deadly weapon. He went to trial and was acquitted at considerable expense and inconvenience. The attackers were convicted but didn't get any jail time.
34 posted on 07/05/2003 1:23:59 PM PDT by FreePaul
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To: hiho hiho; *Lamestream Media; *CCRM; *BritishFriends
“There is a lobby in this country that says the average man has the right to protect himself , and damn the cost,” Johnston said. “The Choate case provides a cautionary note to say this is not always the way to go. This kind of thing can happen.”

Translation: The outcome of "Real Story" has been predetermined, before the first interview has even begun.

Ah, the impartial BBC "News."

36 posted on 07/05/2003 3:32:37 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War
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To: hiho hiho
actually I sort of like this idea. I want the *socialist* Brits to be afraid (very afraid) of the United States, and I want the sane conservative Brits to realize there is still a place of refuge.
39 posted on 07/05/2003 8:29:30 PM PDT by ahadams2 (abortion is murder)
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To: hiho hiho
The teenager had broken into Stordahl’s garage and started a fire, Family and friends say he might have been confused and thought he was in his own garage.

So it was this punk's normal custom, to set his garage on fire? Er... how often had he been doing this?

I'm so very glad that the British are sending someone to tell us we've got it all wrong.

Just think, we could have stayed with them, and had Phoney Tony, inbred royalty, bad teeth, and the civilised world's highest rate of home invasions! What were we thinking these 227 years ago? </ sarcasm>

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

42 posted on 07/05/2003 9:42:10 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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