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To: BJungNan
I'll add to it by saying, if a group genereated wish list of what FR members would like to see changed in this country were put together, Bush would not score at the top of the list (perhaps we should try it, a wish list). - Use the military to shore up the border to stop the flood of illegal immigration. Bush Score - 0 - Take effective steps to stop or slow illegal immigration across the boarder. Bush Score - 1 - Next question? (scales is 0 to 10)

I will add a few more possibilities: -Enforce the second amendment
Bush Score - 0
Enforce due process clause of the 5th amendment
Bush score- negative 5 (enemy combatants are not just a failure to enforce but an intentional violation on his part).
Enforce 10th amendment
Bush score - 0 (Many examples. Let's just list Medicare drug benefit for currency.)

129 posted on 07/06/2003 10:26:11 AM PDT by Mike4Freedom (Freedom is the one thing that you cannot have unless you grant it to everyone else.)
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To: Mike4Freedom
I am a registered Republican and I voted for Bush and will most likely do so again despite the almost certain fact that his administration lied us into war. It has been a real lesson these last fews months on FR. Seeing Freepers use the same dishonest debating techniques that Clinton defenders used to defend what are obvious lies: "Oh- the use of the faked Niger info was an honest Snafu!" Yeah- right- how many times did we hear that one from Clinton and crowd? Then we have Freepers who have no use for the UN quoting it (often falsely). Now they are using Clinton himself as a source to defend Bush! Then we have the after the fact justifications like the "mass graves." If this war had been waged by a President Gore it would be quite a different atmosphere around here.

I especially love the technique of the "info dump"- when a freeper posts a thousand links about WMDs and Al Queda connections to "proove" that he had them and was tied to OBL. The obvious response to that technique is to tell the poster to pass it along to Bush and co. since they don't seem aware of this "proof."

Having said all that I will vote for Bush almost certainly despite the fact that he lied us into a war and I hate being treated like I am an idiot. Once the Democratic candidates start opening their mouths and start talking about what statist nightmares they intend for the country even those conservatives who never wanted this war will have no real choice but to vote for Dubya. Sorry- can't vote Libertarian- just not realistic.

133 posted on 07/07/2003 10:42:47 AM PDT by Burkeman1 (w)
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