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To: pram
Yes, Bhagavad Vita was older but Hinduism came at 500 BC when Krishna had his"enlightening experience". The Bhagavad vita was born out of impulses occuring at the 3000 to 2500 BC period. It is much purer in essense to God's Tao then subsequent religious streams that came later.

Mesopotamian civilization was just beginning, Hammurabi's code was being formed. Egyptian civilizations were already stong and arising, The Bhagavad was being formed as a civilization from the North was invading the Indus region of India, though I need to read up on the history to refresh my memory, perhaps you can "enlighten" me. Chinese writing and civilization were already 1000 years old (some say much older....by the way the chinese symbol for west means "the place where a man and a woman live in a garden", talk about your Adam and Eve story as Eden would have been west of China....."boat" is a symbol that looks like a boat with 8 people in it...;}. Chinese writing is said to be 6000 years old)

There was an impulse occuring at that time among all civilizations, with very similar moral codes being developed. The Greek myths and moral codes grew out of this time. There are evidences of extremely advanced civilazations that grew then flamed out from that time. And finally, around 2000 to 1900 BC, Abraham's father moved to Ur, then God began centering in on Abraham, " I will bring you to a land and make a great nation of you...".

CS Lewis talks of a winnowing out process, in which he centers on civilasations, then cities, then families, then one man from which he would begin his Salvation process, thought, in God's mind, the church was already in existence across time and space, filled with all those who worshiped him in spirit and in truth. "Before Abraham, I AM ", stated Christ....indeed, before Abraham was, Jesus IS!

92 posted on 07/10/2003 3:40:16 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: mdmathis6
My purpose in bringing up the Bhagavad Gita (which I have studied for more than 30 years, along with many other of the Vedic literatures) was to point out the universality of religion-based morality. This hints at the existence of one Supreme Godhead, as you mentioned, revealing more or less of His personality and will through the differing religions and holy books of the world.

The basic moral tenets of all monotheistic religions are all very similar if not almost exactly the same in most particulars, and if more people followed these tenets, we then would have time to discuss theology in peace.

I am more interested in influencing the atheists, hedonists, moral relativists and homosexual advocates of the world to become theists, and start living according to basic religious principles, than trying to debate "which religion is best".

There are two religions in the world. On the one side are those who worship God, the transcendent Supreme Person, to the best of their ability and understanding. On the other side are those who worship, with lust and the desire to be supreme, that which is not transcendent. In other words, some worship God, and some worship His creation, ignoring Him, and trying to imitate His position of Lordship. And if that side becomes the dominant force in the world (looks like it now), the world is the loser.

(By the way, the word "Hindu" does not appear in the Vedas, it is a term invented by Moslem invaders to describe the inhabitants of greater India who lived across the Sindhu River. And Bhagavan Krishna was never "enlightened", or claimed to be. Krishna is a name which means "the all-attractive Godhead".)
93 posted on 07/10/2003 9:24:39 PM PDT by First Amendment
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