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Temperament Wars (Dems are nice, GOP is mean)
The New York Times Magazine ^ | 07/06/03 | JAMES TRAUB

Posted on 07/04/2003 5:08:13 PM PDT by Pokey78

Some time very soon, President George Bush is expected to sign a $400 billion bill adding a prescription-drug benefit to Medicare -- and he is sure to be flanked not only by Republicans but also by Democrats, perhaps including that arch-liberal, Senator Ted Kennedy. It's an image that is apt to drive former President Bill Clinton around the bend. The Democrats have, in effect, agreed to hand to Bush precisely the kind of politically precious legislative victory on health care that the Republicans went to any lengths to deny to Clinton back in 1994. Could it be that the Democrats are constitutionally incapable of acting as single-mindedly -- as ruthlessly, as unfairly -- as the Republicans? If so, is this the kind of Christian virtue that leads to being eaten by lions?

The difference between the two parties is not simply ideological. It is also temperamental. For all the talk about the tainted legitimacy of Bush's Supreme Court-inflected victory in the 2000 election, the Democrats have never sought to discredit Bush's presidency. Clinton, on the other hand, won fair and square, but many Republicans treated him as an illegitimate figure from the outset, and from the time of the 1994 election, which brought the Republicans to power in both houses and made Newt Gingrich speaker of the House, the G.O.P. practiced a politics of holy war that culminated in the impeachment proceedings.

Republicans have been bitterly complaining recently about the filibusters Democrats have mounted to block two of the president's nominees to the federal bench. But this obscures the historical facts. During the last six years of Clinton's presidency, the Republican majority on the Senate Judiciary Committee blocked fully one-third of Clinton's nominees to the federal appeals courts. When the Democrats regained control of the Senate in 2001, however, party leaders agreed to rapidly process all but the most controversial candidates in order to fill the vast backlog created by Republican obstruction. The judicial vacancy rate is now lower than it was even in Clinton's first two years, when the Democrats controlled Congress, and the bench is, of course, increasingly Republican and conservative.

Why are the Democrats so much more willing than the Republicans to make political sacrifices in the name of procedural fairness or of good government? Maybe Democrats are just nicer, but a more philosophical view is that liberals are committed to, are in fact bedeviled by, ideals about process that do not much preoccupy conservatives, at least contemporary ones. Liberals put their faith in such content-neutral principles as free speech, due process, participatory democracy. Is that too lofty? Then maybe we should say that today's liberals, unlike today's conservatives, don't believe in any particular set of ends ardently enough to blind themselves to the means they are using to achieve them.

This became patent during the endgame of the 2000 election, when Al Gore refused to sanction a range of promising legal approaches and Joe Lieberman felt called upon to concede the fairness of a critical Republican claim about the validity of absentee military ballots. Several months later, I asked Lieberman how in the world he could have handed that weapon to his opponents, and he said, ''In spite of the fact that on the other side they were being partisan, there was no reason for me not to say what I saw.'' It's impossible to think of any instance in which the Bush-Cheney ticket acted comparably.

Gentlemen like Joe Lieberman are inclined to think that voters will think the better of them for their fair-mindedness. But is that really so? Many voters were plainly put off by Newt Gingrich's relentless personal and political assaults on Clinton; and Clinton, the one Democrat willing to sacrifice practically anything (possibly including his principles) in the name of victory, brought the party briefly out of the woods by running against Republican extremism. But Gingrich is no longer the face of the G.O.P. And while George Bush may well be the most conservative president in American history, he is more popular than, say, his conciliatory father was for most of his presidency. Maybe voters like politicians who know what they stand for even if they don't agree with what they stand for. (Or maybe they just like George Bush.)

There are Democrats who would like the party to get down off its moral pedestal and start fighting dirty, or at least dirtier. The journalist Eric Alterman, author of ''What Liberal Media?'' has complained that liberals need their own Fox News, their own talk radio -- their own unleashed attack dogs. Put Michael Moore behind a desk, and watch the right-wingers squeal. The problem is that many Democrats would squirm as well. It is just a fact that the Republicans are now the party of passionate convictions, while the Democrats are the party of grave reservations. The Democrats are essentially devoted to tempering the harm caused by the Bush administration, which is not much of an agenda at all, though it certainly makes a virtue of moderation. Ruthlessness is just not in the party's DNA.

It's an odd reversal, if you think about it. The Republicans used to be the party of the First Methodist Church, and the Democrats of the great unwashed. Now the Republicans are the hellions, and the Democrats are the ones you want to bring home to mother. The G.O.P. is making such inroads among younger voters for the same reason that Fox News is making inroads among younger viewers. We live in a culture that values brazen certainty and loud conviction, no matter how wrongheaded. Pity the Democrats, stuck with the wrong set of virtues.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: delusions; liberals; nytstillmakingitup; screed
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1 posted on 07/04/2003 5:08:13 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
We are virtuous and pure, they are devious and corrupt. Seems like the writer could have just summed it up with that sentence and spared the reader the torture of reading all that.
2 posted on 07/04/2003 5:10:28 PM PDT by squidly
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To: squidly
For all the talk about the tainted legitimacy of Bush's Supreme Court-inflected victory in the 2000 election, the Democrats have never sought to discredit Bush's presidency...

What universe is this guy living in?

4 posted on 07/04/2003 5:15:39 PM PDT by Ronin (Bonitas non est pessimis esse meliorem.)
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Oh, right. Dems are regular sweethearts.

6 posted on 07/04/2003 5:17:11 PM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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To: Pokey78
And while George Bush may well be the most conservative president in American history, he is more popular than, say, his conciliatory father was for most of his presidency. Maybe voters like politicians who know what they stand for even if they don't agree with what they stand for. (Or maybe they just like George Bush.)

I love it when they scratch their heads and can't come up with the real reasons they are losing! What? They can't call us Nazis and have anybody believe them anymore? They can't stifle free speech and delude themselves that they stand for the will of the people? They can't lie and get away with it anymore because of the internet? Awwww, shucks anyway!

7 posted on 07/04/2003 5:18:01 PM PDT by alwaysconservative ("Without real freedom, there can be no real truth")
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To: Ronin
When, at any time, was Bush losing in the vote count in Florida?
8 posted on 07/04/2003 5:18:51 PM PDT by marajade
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To: Pokey78



Time for one of these, I think
9 posted on 07/04/2003 5:26:55 PM PDT by hemogoblin (Fight the Culture War; revive conservative fiction :::: www.pubversive.com)
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To: martin_fierro
How'd you forget Paulie's old podna, the Snake?
10 posted on 07/04/2003 5:29:58 PM PDT by RichInOC (Paul Begala and James Carville...there's just no place for that kind of ugliness in politics.)
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To: martin_fierro
Thank you for not posting a pic of the carvile snake ... Democrats are the party of abortion slaughter. It's their ritual of choice, don'tcha know.
11 posted on 07/04/2003 5:32:20 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: Pokey78
Only the New York Times could imagine that the party that supports abortion and sexual perversion as the two most important and nonnegotiable planks in its political agenda is as nice as motherhood and as sweet as apple pie.

"Hi, mom! I just voted for partial birth abortion!"
12 posted on 07/04/2003 5:45:52 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Ronin
(Why are the Democrats so much more willing than the Republicans to make political sacrifices in the name of procedural fairness or of good government?)

They also forgot the Florida supreme court's attempt at running roughshod over Florida's election laws during the recount, New Jersey's Supreme court running roughshod over that state's election laws (to replace the Torch on the ballot way after it was legal to do so), Not allowing Bush's judges to come out of committee when they were in power and essentially changing the required vote on judges from 50% to 60% (by flibustering), etc. How can we also forget the predictable refrain come election time that Republicans want to starve children and the homeless, reinstate slavery, and throw grandma down the stairs. Democrats are sooooo nice and only play by the rules!
13 posted on 07/04/2003 5:46:40 PM PDT by winner3000
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To: Ronin
LMAO! Most liberals are full of seething rage, unrelenting hatred, and deep to the soul contempt for President Bush. They're unhinged by two election losses in a road and they've veered Left. About the temperament wars, the truth is exactly the reverse of the headline. But who care these days about the truth? All we know is Republicans are heartless, right-wing, son of a bitch terminators bent on wiping out the human race.
14 posted on 07/04/2003 5:50:26 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Pokey78
Why are the Democrats so much more willing than the Republicans to make political sacrifices in the name of procedural fairness or of good government?

Lala land, I read no further.
15 posted on 07/04/2003 5:52:25 PM PDT by tet68
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To: MHGinTN
Because of the Dem's adherence to the doctrine of slaughtering the unborn, they are due no respect whatsoever, neither in politics, nor in business, nor in social encounters.

Glad to see that attitude is moving into Congress otherwise some of those wishy-washy guys in the Rep leadership would be giving away the show to "my good colleague" as Trent Lott used to call them.

Never give a Dem a break.

16 posted on 07/04/2003 5:58:10 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Pokey78
Are these the faces of "nice" people?

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17 posted on 07/04/2003 6:03:49 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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They are also ignorant people.

They all believe in in communism yet they are too stupid to realize that. Look at their friends all communist/socialist/ditcatorship countries.
They never met one they didn't like.
18 posted on 07/04/2003 6:16:33 PM PDT by ImphClinton
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To: Pokey78
They can't be any more delusional. Let's get a few things straight:

The reason Ted Kennedy is willing to stand with the president on things like the education bill and prescription drugs for medicare is because they are LIBERAL BIG GOVERNMENT bills.

If you were to compare Democrats *handing* a win like this to Bush, you'd have to compare it to Republicans *handing* Clinton a win on welfare reform, a bill that the left felt horribly about.

As for Democrats being nice guys and allowing the military vote to count in Florida in 2004, well, gee, I guess the military *ought* to have their votes count shouldn't they? After all, when Democrats bleat that convicts and illegals and nameless dimpled chads should have the right to vote, you'd think our men and women overseas could possibly be afforded the same right. And they think this should count in the Democrats' favor?

Then, as to obstructing judges, the difference here is that the Republican *have* a majority of the Senate with which to get these nominees passed. That's not the same thing as when Republicans were the majority party and blocked Clinton nominees. The Democrats are trying to exercise the rights of the majority, while not holding a majority. Therein lies the difference.

I truly wish the Republicans were as mean, nasty and devious as the moral midgets at the New York Times would have you believe. If they did, maybe we could have some conservative measures accomplished rather than liberal measures. It's beyond time they stood up and bared their teeth instead of being the Rodney King battered spouses they act like most of the time.

19 posted on 07/04/2003 6:17:53 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (Spay or neuter your liberal.)
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To: Pokey78
New York Times magazine?? What's that? Wasn't there a newspaper with that name that went bust after repeatedly being caught lying?
20 posted on 07/04/2003 6:27:15 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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