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To: kms61
I wonder how successful she is at converting neutrals or opponents...or does her acid style even drive some people away

The world is not so simple as "our guys, their guys, and the people in the midddle." It's a spectrum, and no matter where you are on the spectrum, there are going to be people slightly on either side of you who will find you convincing. People farther away on the spectrum -- in either direction -- will think you are a nut. You can't worry about that.

Suppose Ann Coulter is not trying to convince liberals of anything. She is instead a munitions manufacturer for the vast right wing conspiracy.

The wall-to-wall blanket liberalism that smothered this country for decades left a lot of people who leaned conservative almost ashamed of their beliefs. Around the office, they wouldn't say a word about their politics. All the jokes, all the TV shows, the whole zeitgeist was pushing leftward all the time.

The problem for conservatives was, there was no good ammo. Rush Limbaugh has done the most, I think, to provide Joe Everyman Conservative with the ammo he needs to hold his own around the water cooler. Limbaugh has since been joined by many others. It's a different world out there, and the liberals are reeling.

One of the liberals' big icons has been Joe McCarthy. There has always been a sizeable number of people running around saying, "Psst... McCarthy was right," but for 90% of the culture, the term "Joe McCarthy" has come to mean "Mysterious bad guy in the 1950's who persecuted people." So Joe McCarthy has become a handy cudgel that liberals use to silence anything they don't like. "You sound like Joe McCarthy, that's just more McCarthyism." He's a meme.

We need to knock down some of their memes. McCarthy has been a useful one for them. When all the shouting dies down, the lasting effect of this latest book will be that the "Joe McCarthy meme" has been fuzzed up in the minds of lots of people. Some may not believe a word Coulter said, but they know there's another side. Memes become useless unless their meaning is transmitted instantly; any fuzz at all about what they mean, and they aren't memes anymore.

So on that level it doesn't matter whether Coulter convinces anyone with this book. She provides ammo that Joe Everyman can take to the water cooler, and she sows doubts in liberal minds that they can use Joe McCarthy as a conversation stopper.

There's a third thing. She makes liberals go berserk, which is fun to watch. We see pontificating liberal columnists writing, "This loudmouthed b*tch is not engaging in civil discourse like we do." Heh.


52 posted on 07/04/2003 6:30:01 AM PDT by Nick Danger (The liberals are slaughtering themselves at the gates of the newsroom)
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To: Nick Danger
Right on, Mr. PI. Where did anyone ever get the idea that Ann was about attracting new members into the conservative sphere? The idea is silly.
Ann Coulter is a natural treasure, saying things that many agree with but no one else has the stones to say. When your enemies fly your planes into your skyscrapers it IS (original usage here) time to offer them a chance to convert to your beliefs or give them an expedited ticket to meet Allah. That is a perfectly logical and humane response to what occurred on September 11th. Yet in this country pundits were haemorrhaging over Coulter's supposed savagery.
Another fact is that international Communism was having its way with the agencies and offices of our government since the beginning. You must read what the Venona papers say. And the evidence is to be found elsewhere too. We were had. Big time.
We spent billions on the world's most secret project, the atom bomb, when billions were real money, and the science and the secrets were going right out the back door.
Read your history. And then tell me Ann Coulter dissembles.
59 posted on 07/04/2003 7:11:35 AM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: Nick Danger
Memes become useless unless their meaning is transmitted instantly; any fuzz at all about what they mean, and they aren't memes anymore.

She provides ammo that Joe Everyman can take to the water cooler, and she sows doubts in liberal minds that they can use Joe McCarthy as a conversation stopper.

Hopefully her next book will be "Hitler Was A 'Progressive'".

;-)

64 posted on 07/04/2003 7:24:47 AM PDT by StriperSniper (Frogs are for gigging)
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To: Nick Danger
One of the liberals' big icons has been Joe McCarthy. There has always been a sizeable number of people running around saying, "Psst... McCarthy was right," but for 90% of the culture, the term "Joe McCarthy" has come to mean "Mysterious bad guy in the 1950's who persecuted people." So Joe McCarthy has become a handy cudgel that liberals use to silence anything they don't like. "You sound like Joe McCarthy, that's just more McCarthyism." He's a meme.

This is right. There have been Liberal 'working assumptions' that have helped shut up Conservatives ... certain subjects or viewpoints are just so 'taboo' that we dont win the argument we just get labelled kooks for daring to even speak. This effective shaming technique limits the debate to the terms the Liberals' want.

One of the 'taboos' was and is calling people traitors when they advocate policies dangerous to our national security. the "joe McCarthy" myth (the myth of his dangerousness) has been fed by liberals in order to make patriotism a taboo 'litmus test'. Very convenient for them as they sell our national sovereignty down a river. We've had out share of out and out enemies to America's interests - Ramsey, Clark, Ron Dellums, etc. but we've had to treat them with rhetoric kid gloves.

Coulter is dynamiting this particular taboo, speaking truth to conventional Liberal PC "wisdom". As with any such exercise in creative destruction, strong language is needed.

One of the liberals' big icons has been Joe McCarthy. There has always been a sizeable number of people running around saying, "Psst... McCarthy was right," but for 90% of the culture, the term "Joe McCarthy" has come to mean "Mysterious bad guy in the 1950's who persecuted people." So Joe McCarthy has become a handy cudgel that liberals use to silence anything they don't like. "You sound like Joe McCarthy, that's just more McCarthyism." He's a meme.

Exactly. Fight bad ideas with better ideas. Fight their memes with ours, ie, with the truth.

69 posted on 07/04/2003 3:45:36 PM PDT by WOSG (We liberated Iraq. Now Let's Free Cuba, North Korea, Iran, China, Tibet, Syria, ...)
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