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"After reading your last reply it seems that you are unwilling to state where you stand and think that the US government should be in business just to give you the lowest prices for what you wish to buy which is a "transfer payment to you" and you accuse every reasonable proposal to guarantee a prosperous economy with markets that are closer to being free and unregulated within the USA as being a transfer payment to others. Your statement that you agree to oppose subsidies on Constitutional grounds but not because it causes economic harm indicates that you are perfectly fine with teh government picking winners and losers as long as it picks you. I am tired of trying to discuss reasonably economic issues which you are unwilling to discuss honestly."

My position always has been that the US government should not be in the business of ensuring anyone a living.

"Because you feel yourself entitled to benefit from slavery is no reason for anyone else to permit you to reap thiose benefits."

No, you are the one proposing slavery when you propose tarriffs to artifically raise the price of goods and services then you are saying that you have the right to enslave your fellow Americans.

"You are the only one who proposed allowing politicians to determine a fair wage at now place in my proposal was there anything but free market wages proposed."

Advocating tarriffs to boost prices and wages is not a free martket. When you empower politicians to set tarriffs to protect wages, you have empowered those politicians to determine the wage levels to be protected, ie, to determine a fair wage.

"It is the guest worker and offshore investments that are subsidized by teh government that are short circuiting the free market wages that would be coming to Americans."

We've already established that I'm against government subsidies. But, I am equally against using the power of government to artifically maintain prices and wages. That too is a subsidy.

"But by the nature of your comments about lower cost products available to you you do not care. I note that if one buys stolen property it is usually at a lower cost for the same quality by the nature of your comments you seem to think that any such enforcement of property laws would be a harm to you."

Once again, you're the one proposing using the power of government to establish protective tarriffs that steal my propery and income in order to maintain the living standard of another individual. That, Sir, is theft.

No, you are the one proposing slavery when you propose tarriffs to artifically raise the price of goods and services then you are saying that you have the right to enslave your fellow Americans

Calling a consumption tax which has been in effect since the first Congress under the Constitution slavery is insane.

Advocating tarriffs to boost prices and wages is not a free martket. When you empower politicians to set tarriffs to protect wages, you have empowered those politicians to determine the wage levels to be protected, ie, to determine a fair wage.

Even John C. Calhoun was not as radically against tarriffs as you seem to be. Aprotedtive tarriff was in place since the Presidency of John Adams revenue tarriffs even longer. Setting tarriffs is one of the powers of Congress they are so empowered by teh Constitution of the USA which I am certain you do not like or support based upon this statement about politicians. Excise taxes and tarriffs have been arround since George Washington was president. Actually several of teh Colonies had these taxes as a means of support prior to the adoption of the Constitution. You are alone in calling this type of tax imposing slavery on my fellow Americans.

I am sorry you can not see that an internally free market is created behind national tarriffs and that such can lead to economic development. I suggest you read some American History. I further note that imported goods are not your property to have and to hold in the USA until they come through customs and any tarriffs are paid. likewise production of alcohol may be subject to an excise tax and you will pay it or face the wrath of the Federal government. George Washington brought out the Federal troops to put down Shea's rebellion. Smuggling has been a crime since John Jay was Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. So do not accuse someone of theft unless and until you have actually purchased that property and if foreign manufactured it has been lawfully imported to the USA otherwise it quite Constitutionally is subject to seizure.