[Alouette]

Let's see now. First the anti-religious gang complains that the Orthodox are shirking their military duty. Then when an Orthodox soldier volunteers he is punished for not wanting to participate in a dancing party!

Can someone explain how a dancing party has to do with national security? Or is the only purpose for bringing Orthodox soldiers into the IDF is "anti-religious coercion" from the same people who complain so loudly about alleged "religious coercion."

[Alouette]

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[wideawake]

I'm sure the Shinui MKs are outraged and will call for an immediate rectification of this situation.

After all, they aren't anti-religious, they simply insist that everyone have equal rights.

[Scubes]

Hmmmm....what if... this took place in a foreign army.........

" During the trial, the NON-JEWISH battalion commander insisted that the order was legal, but the soldier responded, "Not according to Halakhah [Jewish law]." The NON-JEWISH commander said, "If you violate your faith, you'll be able to live with that, but if you violate the army rules, you'll have to pay dearly." The soldier said, "I'm willing to pay the price. "

What opinion would one have of the battalion commander and the army in question then?

[Prodigal Son]

One of those things isn't it? Was the order legal or not? A week's imprisonment doesn't sound like the end of the world.

[Cicero]

This is really dumb. This officer has, hopefully, succeeded in ending his own career, since he seems incapable of undertanding how to instill good morale in his troops.

There are always tensions between secular and religious Jews in Israel, and sometimes the religious Jews are at fault, too; but not in this case, IMHO.

[goody2shooz]

I was in the U.S.Navy at one time. The first group of spooks I was assigned with on rotating watch would, with out fail, drive to a whorehouse after our last night of duty. Being the only female in the group, obviously I was not included.

Later, after two cases of syphllis, they were ordered to stop that activity. So they played baseball on our first day of break. I chose to do my laundry.

[Salem]

Reminds me of the situation Army Spc Michael New was in. Was he right to defy a direct order and not wear UN colors? Hell yes! He made an oath to the US Constitution, not the corrupt UN tower of Babel.

But he paid a price to take a stand for what is right. Sometimes you have to do that to take a stand on an obvious principle.