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Posted on 07/03/2003 10:37:53 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.....
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posted on
07/03/2003 12:11:00 PM PDT
by
Imagine
To: TheBattman; Ahban
"I would venture that if every member of FreeRepublic were to compare their personal beliefs with the actual platforms of the "major" parties, we would find that the Constitution Pary would have the largest percentage of people agreeing." I think you're absolutely right, but, as always, the problem still remains that the 2-party system will NEVER allow any party that would upset the status quo to gain a foothold in the national political landscape, but as Ahban says, there is a chance at the state level for the Constitution Party to make some inroads.
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posted on
07/03/2003 12:17:04 PM PDT
by
sweetliberty
("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
To: habs4ever
Fringe - maybe
BUT is it too far fetched to believe that if everyone who is conservative really stood up for what they believe - forcing the issue with 3rd partys or with our VOTE, we could at least make an impact in the right direction?
If you think it is too far fetched, then I guess it's time to shut FR down and all of us give up all hope.
P.S. If the ture conserviative is such a minority "fringe" group, then why is it that the majority of the people I run into, for the most part, have very similar political beliefs? And don't give me the "birds of a feather" excuse. I am referring to general population in public. Even more funny are those with very conservative leanings, yet are die-hard Democrat voters....
To: Trace21230
Most conservatives are too smart to throw their vote away on a party/candidate that has no chance to win. So they "throw their vote away" on candidates and a party that does not represent them - thus continuing the socialist Un-Constitutional movement in our country?
Yep - that sure sounds like using brains! < / sarcasm off >
To: TheBattman
Yep - that sure sounds like using brains! It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out that if you have a 50% chance to get 75% of your agenda implemented and zero chance to get 100% of your agenda implemented, you go with the group implementing 75% of your agenda.
But, noone ever accused third party-types of being good at math. Or common sense.
Trace
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posted on
07/03/2003 12:28:21 PM PDT
by
Trace21230
(Ideal MOAB test site: Paris)
To: Trace21230; billbears
"
Most conservatives are too smart to throw their vote away on a party/candidate that has no chance to win."
So we're smart enough to take whatever the major players throw at us - even if it's a rotten fish. Makes scents.
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posted on
07/03/2003 12:30:04 PM PDT
by
azhenfud
To: chance33_98
The Constitution Party is the nation's third largest political party in terms of actual voter registration. As a Libertarian, I'd question that.
Their stand on this issue is perfectly consistent with their usual positions, though.
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posted on
07/03/2003 12:30:32 PM PDT
by
jimt
To: jimt
The Constitution Party is the nation's third largest political party in terms of actual voter registration. As a Libertarian, I'd question that.
Well, Libertarians are hard to count.... you can't get them to join anything.
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posted on
07/03/2003 12:34:20 PM PDT
by
HairOfTheDog
(Not all those who wander are lost)
To: TheBattman
Most of the "true conservatives" vote Republican.That is where they are to be found.If it wasn't so, then the CP would be the governing party.There is also no way to have a majority with right wingers alone, so you need centrists, and under Bush, the center is shifting rightward.
No matter what you feel, there aren't enough of "your" types to govern.
To: azhenfud
As long as you third-party types realize that you are effectively voting for Democrats, go ahead and do what you want.
There is no functional electoral difference between you and the most ardent member of DU, you are supporting the same people, only in different ways.
Trace
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posted on
07/03/2003 12:37:52 PM PDT
by
Trace21230
(Ideal MOAB test site: Paris)
To: Trace21230
Actually, it's the Constitution that's irrelevant, as the Lawrence ruling demonstrated.
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posted on
07/03/2003 12:41:47 PM PDT
by
puroresu
To: Trace21230
"
There is no functional electoral difference between you and the most ardent member of DU, you are supporting the same people, only in different ways."
Maybe. But as long as the straight-ticket, straight-jacketed voter places party allegiance above that of personal conviction and moral rightness, we'll never be abled to keep, much less restore, our country's values. Communists operate under the SAME "party importance" mindset....
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posted on
07/03/2003 12:53:24 PM PDT
by
azhenfud
To: azhenfud
But as long as the straight-ticket, straight-jacketed voter places party allegiance above that of personal conviction and moral rightness, we'll never be abled to keep, much less restore, our country's values. Listen, I understand where you are coming from. My first presidential vote was for Patrick J. Buchanan in 1992 in the Republican primary. I voted principle over party.
If we had a Knesset instead of a U.S. Congress, I would be on your side. But the reality of life in the United States is that we have, for better or for worse, a two-party system.
You may find the idealism that comes along with voting your personal convictions gratifying. I view it as selfish and destructive given the reality of our country's established political system.
Trace
P.S. I would never support Buchanan now, when I voted for in in 1992 I was much more to the right than I am now.
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posted on
07/03/2003 12:58:01 PM PDT
by
Trace21230
(Ideal MOAB test site: Paris)
To: habs4ever
Now you've gone and done it - you've upset a "True Conservative".
The over/under on the diastolic BP of your average True Conservative reading your post is 220.....
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posted on
07/03/2003 1:04:02 PM PDT
by
Chancellor Palpatine
(want me in your thread to insult True Conservatives? just summon me at http://www.minionofsatan.com)
To: jimt; habs4ever
I'll admit that Libertarians are extremely consistent, albeit irrational utopians. The other problem is that if you put 5 Libertarians in a room, they'll come up with 12 opinions on any given issues, and wind up calling each other statists as at least two of the participants leave in disgust over the big government leanings of the remaining 3.
Now, as to Constamatooshin Party members, they believe in absolute freedom for white, anglo saxon, aggressively evangelical fundamentalist Christian misogynist white men who find sex gross, and who tend to think prohibition wasn't given a good enough chance. Everybody else just has to accept that or leave the country. They tend to spend a lot of time at the cardiologist getting checked out for high blood pressure.
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posted on
07/03/2003 1:15:50 PM PDT
by
Chancellor Palpatine
(want me in your thread to insult True Conservatives? just summon me at http://www.minionofsatan.com)
To: Trace21230; azhenfud
There is no functional electoral difference between you and the most ardent member of DU, you are supporting the same people, only in different ways.Funny, the same thing could be said of Elizabeth Dole and Erskine Bowles.
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posted on
07/03/2003 1:31:35 PM PDT
by
billbears
(Deo Vindice)
To: billbears
There is no functional electoral difference between you and the most ardent member of DU, you are supporting the same people, only in different ways.Funny, the same thing could be said of Elizabeth Dole and Erskine Bowles.
Nice zinger, but completely false and we all know it. Would Erskine Bowles vote for cloture on Estrada? No. Has Dole? Yes. There are many other differences, too numerous to list here in response to such a ridiculous comment.
Trace
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posted on
07/03/2003 1:36:39 PM PDT
by
Trace21230
(Ideal MOAB test site: Paris)
To: Trace21230
Yeah, but billbears is unappeasable. If you gave him 100% of what he wanted, he'd come up with something else to be unhappy with for the sheer joy of being unhappy....
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posted on
07/03/2003 1:40:26 PM PDT
by
Chancellor Palpatine
(want me in your thread to insult True Conservatives? just summon me at http://www.minionofsatan.com)
To: chance33_98
Sign me up.
To: habs4ever
under Bush, the center is shifting rightward. Are you so sure? Hmmm...vastly expanded socialist healthcare programs, vastly expanded Education programs, the largest spending increases since LBJ, borders continue to flow with illegals.
Yep, sounds like the center is moving "rightward"< / sarcasm off >
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