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To: e_engineer; Physicist; longshadow; PatrickHenry; Piltdown_Woman; MikeD; VadeRetro; jennyp
Hmmmm... I hope this makes sense.

Remember when a planet is orbiting a star; it also has a gravitational influence on that star as well. So it’s not just a planet orbiting a star, it's both orbiting a common center of mass.

So as the planet becomes more massive, the further the center of mass moves from the center of the star (causing the star to wobble).

Also the period of an orbit is directly proportional to its distance from the star, closer is shorter.

So the massive close-in higher elliptical planets are far easier to detect.

If a planet has a perfectly circular orbit, the center of mass of the system will rotate around the center of the star in a uniform fashion and usually does not cause the star to wobble enough to be detectable by our present method of stellar displacement.

So in conclusion, a massive planet with a close in higher elliptical orbit will cause an appreciable fast enough wobble that is easier to detect.

Physicist, longshadow, MikeD; All; Anything you want to add?

321 posted on 07/04/2003 9:30:23 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
Physicist, longshadow, MikeD; All; Anything you want to add?

yes.....

you didn't use the term "wildly elliptical" anywhere in your explanation.

;-)

323 posted on 07/04/2003 9:36:51 AM PDT by longshadow
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To: RadioAstronomer
Remember when a planet is orbiting a star; it also has a gravitational influence on that star as well. So it’s not just a planet orbiting a star, it's both orbiting a common center of mass.

Agreed.

So as the planet becomes more massive, the further the center of mass moves from the center of the star (causing the star to wobble).

Agreed.

Also the period of an orbit is directly proportional to its distance from the star, closer is shorter.

Agreed.

So the massive close-in higher elliptical planets are far easier to detect.

If you change this to read: "So the massive close-in higher elliptical planets are far easier to detect.", Agreed.

Imagine a Jupiter mass planet in a circular orbit with perihelion = 1 AU. If you could change it's ellipticity (sp?) but keep the perihelion (closest approach) at 1 AU, does it become easier or harder to detect based on the stars radial velocity?

Since the maximum excursion of the center of mass would be the same in both cases, the elliptical orbit would be (at best) equally detectable to the circular orbit.

If we assume that both orbits are in the same plane with the observer on earth, the elliptical orbit becomes more difficult to detect if it's semi-major axis is perpendicular to the line of sight to earth.

328 posted on 07/04/2003 11:20:30 AM PDT by e_engineer
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