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To: RRWCC
It is ABSOLUTELY true. We are governed now by whatever the public can be convinced that the majority want.

That's not true. Take Miguel Estrada as an example. It appears from the polls he has majority support. But a minority, through their representatives in Congress, are able to block his appointment.

Take impeachment. A majority of Americans consistently said they did not want the President to be impeached. The House impeached him anyway.

Take the War in Iraq. A majority favored the war, but we are still undergoing investigations by the minority which seek to exploit any problems they may uncover. Through this adversarial process, people are held accountable.

But the simplest way to prove your statement wrong is to ask: Did we the people vote on the tax cut? Did you cast a vote on the tax cut, or the war? No. End of story. Even the President HIMSELF has no Idea what form of government we have. He keeps referring to us as a Democracy

Presidents all do that. I don't love that either.

29 posted on 07/02/2003 9:16:09 AM PDT by Huck
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To: Huck
“That's not true.” – O.K. lets dissect this thing.

“Miguel Estrada” The only reason that his appointment is held up is because of his stand on abortion. The minority in Congress are allowed to hang up his appointment because we have been convinced that the majority of our population is in favor of abortion.

“Take impeachment. A majority of Americans consistently said they did not want the President to be impeached. The House impeached him anyway. “ – He was not removed from office was he. The only sitting President that materially aided a hostile foreign power (China). Was left in office after treason because the MAJORITY wanted him to remain in office. It is the Constitutional duty to REMOVE from office those who have committed treason, but in order to prevent the majority from demanding that they do their job, they allowed the whole thing to get sidelined into his sexual habits. The people who put him in office Knew he was a moral garbage can, but didn’t care.

“Take the War in Iraq. A majority favored the war” Only after the massive “he’s a boogie man” campaign. The MAJORITY wanted to go and we went. I might add that Congress deliberately refused to do their job and declare war this time. (Ron Paul submitted a bill to do just that and it was never allowed out of committee).

“Through this adversarial process” primarily show. Have you EVER known one of these processes to accomplish anything? Have you ever known any of these processes to determine anything other than that the Govt. was right all along?

Keep in mind I did not say that we VOTE as a democracy. We are ruled primarily by poles that “determine” opinion.

On a more personal note - I've got to get back to work. I'll look in a bit later.

Have a FANTASTIC day!
31 posted on 07/02/2003 9:38:42 AM PDT by RRWCC (Even under a good king, a subject is still a subject.)
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