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I think you are being disingenious.

I am not. I've studied the history of the gay activist movement from its modern nascency during the late 18th Century & mid 19th Century revolutionary periods, and my remarks are quite accurate.

18 is the age of majority in all states. Why is it so important for gays to lower the ages to 14 in some states.

It is important to gays that no discriminatory statutes exist, as I already stated. Moreover, this movement is most prevalent in Europe wherever a general same-sex sodomy statute had been struck down that left in place a separate statute criminalizing same-sex sodomy below age 21 or 18, when age-of-consent for opposite sex vaginal/anal intercourse had been set at 16 or 15.

I would agree with you if their mission was to cause the age of consent to be raised for opposite sex sex.

This has happened in a few cases were age-of-consent was raised from 14 to 16 for opposite-sex relations while decreased from 18 or 19 to 16 for same-sex relations. The Netherlands pops to mind for some reason.

Quite frankly, I think its disgusting for anyone a8 or above, same sex or not, to desire sex with someone under 18.

In nearly all cases, there is a distinction made on the basis of age differential. By example, 16 is the age of consent so long as the older partner is not more than 2 or 4 years older. There's usually an absolute cutoff at 14, an intermediate threshold at 16, and a final threshold at 18 after which full consent is acquired (except in those cases where it remains 21 for same-sex relations).

so, it gives me pause. What is the real motive. Aren't there enough adult partners to choose from or does havign sex with a minor bring some special excitement?

Since in almost all cases, the only 'partners' impacted would be those no older than age 21 [in that case coupled with a 17 y.o.], I doubt this would be the real motive. All evidence suggests that the real motive is that which I've described.

Having sex with a minor self-evidently brings some special excitement to all pedophiles, regardless of sexuality. I wouldn't know from personal experience, since I'm generally drawn to women right about my age.

In short, they gays want the age of consent lowered, just to make it fair. If they didn't care to have sex with minors in the first place, I still cannot understand their cause. If they want symboiism then they should argue to raise the male-female age to what there is. That is the only posistion that is consistant with asking for pure equality and avoid claims they have other interests in mind.

Thanks for the explanation and the reasoning. When the trend is that the age of consent is being limited to certain relationships for heterosexual sex, you have managed to actually solidify my suspicions about the gays motives. Instead of joining the current motion that society is putting on the age of consent, older gays are interested in having sex with minors and some laws prevent this. To combat that they are hiding behind the concept of equality.

This then raises questions for me reagrding the premise that gays are not created while young.