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To: nopardons
Pardon me boy, Is that the Chattanooga Choo Choo?
No, No!
read it my friend,
Just NP's drivel again!

I would have posted a rebuttal earlier, but I just couldn't get through this post without laughing. Oh the typos, the typos! It's okay about the typos.You just can't help it! Your postings seem very emotion-laden. I told you about that! Feel free to point out ANY and ALL of my typos: so far I missed an 'H' and an 'apostrophe s'. I guess I fail American English.

You must have worn your dictionary and thesaurus to dog ears by now! You used TWO BIG words!

I plead NOT GUILTY!! I will explain why: CLASSIST. THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE ISN'T IT? Why won't you assosciate with certian people? Better than they are? Drink a better brand of Whiskey?
Once again you point out that you "associate" with people of different races. So what? Off of your own pen (out of your own big mouth) you say that you don't associate with certain people; just ones like you? That fit into your little box of acceptability? I hope you all do more than sit around and talk "la de da", and about how the poor folk are poor because they want to be, the wretches!

"I said that I am white, becuase for all of your previous posts to me, you were talking to me as though I am black. I thought that you should know that I'm not."
Where is this coming from? Writing (talking!)to you as if you were Black? What are you on?
How am I supposed to post (talk?!) to you? Am I supposed to begin and end end my statements with "Mistress"? Am I being 'uppity'?. YOU were the first one to use "Black History". Now you want to "cave in"(after getting knocked upside the head) and change up? You were the one that started the "ghetto speak"(even though its 'old'). Thought you had too much class for that.
And speaking of "class" Where is yours? Why the repeated name game? Is that your way of pointing out to your "elite" friends that you are actually "down"?

You mentioned the Jews, the Irish and the Puerto Ricans. You forgot the Itlaians. They ALL had/have their own insulated communities, they all were able to keep their communities intact by trading with each other, and by controlling the rental or sale of property in their neighborhoods, and they all had a language seperate from the main language (the Jews also have a faith) . These insulating factors allow for increased nurturing and ethnic pride of their people. Something that society doesn't do. AND they taught each other how to get along, maintaining a respect factor and a societal order.
(AND by and lagre, these were white-skinned people.= more level playing field (especially if you could lose your accent and change your name)
These entities of nuturing and ethnic pride exist in the Black community, to a lesser degree now than before. Many of our best and brightest opt to move out of the community that spawned them. Ask your friends if I'm right.
You mentioned Sugar Hill. I grew up five and twenty-five minutes respectively from Sugar Hill and still live twenty-five minutes from it. Been in and out of it many times. What's happening there today? For that matter, what's happening in Harlem these days?

The KKK: who did they target most? Whom did they murder most? While I will not insensitively disregard any person of any race whom they terrorized, maimed or murdered, after they ceased to be a harmless fraternal order, they had a particular group of people in mind. Ones with NO protection from the greater society. Who were they?

A/A is still needed in this country, racism still exists. A/A definitely needs to change with the times. I think it is too early to totally abolish it. Look at the wage scale.
Once again; I asked about PARITY: ECONOMIC, EDUCATIONAL, FINANCIAL, POLITICAL.
Do Blacks have Parity with whites regarding these entities?
Are we as Black people supposed to forget about these entities and just link arms with whites, like we have been trying to more or less do for the last 150 years? Suddenly, because some conservatives and republicans say some malarkey about brotherhood, we should just fall in line? Have we overcome? Just Be Americans. Is that the Idea? We should "ID" each other because of our "class"? Just another form of bigotry. One you freely admit to!

Al Sharpton came out against the uneven distribution of legal justice between Blacks and whites, and is running for President of the United States.
Jesse Jackson, the one who marched with Martin Luther King, Jr. (you remember seeing him there, right?) came out for A/A when it was brand new, and ran for President of the United States. From where I'm sitting, that is not bad company to be associated with. Thanks.

MLK,Jr. had a good idea. Who is against it? Can you answer that? Why is it that when HISTORY is pointed to, white people in America don't wnat to see what the HISTORY really says? It's always "let's just move on". Ask your friends about that. the one's that are willing to be honest.

When you hear the whistle blowin' eight to the bar,
Then you know an NP post is not very far!
You really think your roastin',
but all you do is BOASTIN'
OOH OOH You need some knowledge in your head!

As always:
Very Very Extra Special
"K"
111 posted on 08/25/2003 12:45:16 PM PDT by Kelly4023 (I keep my eyes wide open all the time)
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To: Kelly4023
You don't belong on FR, newbie race hustler. You call names, imply things about others you do not know, and impugn them, because YOU don't agree with them/find their positions divergent from your own. There is little Conservative, in your stances.

Al Sharpton is a conman, a liar, a crook, a thug, and a race baiting hustler, responsible for the deaths of some, the destroyer of reputation of at least one, and one of YOUR " heros ". Why is that ?

Jesse Jackson, now there's an exemplar of ... NOTHING much of value. Yes, he marched with MLK Jr. and NO ONE, not a single responsible leader, member of that group, nor King himself, thought that Jesse was worth a bucket of warm spit. But then, I guess that what Abernathy had to say about Jesse the race hustler, crook, shakedown artist, adulterer, liar, self aggrandizer, conman supreme, doesn't count. Why is that ? Jesse waved that bloody shirt and lied ! Jesse's " business dealings " are lower than Al Capone's ; who, BTW, fed the poor and destitute during the Great Depression. I guess that that clears Capone of all of the murders, beatings, and illegalities...RIGHT ? Oh, nooooooooooooo, can't be, Al Capone was a white man. Whites are the " devil " and so, he's baaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

Calling me names doesn't prove any point. Neither does trying to make me out to be some cartoon characterization, you delusionally have of me and post.

Most people don't sit around talking about others, from different classes. Those who do, do so because of stupidity, ignorance, and yes, bad manners. Status ( as in which class one belongs to ), has more to do with whom one associates with, than does race, and in some circumstances, religion or lack thereof. Common interest bind people together.

You claim that I am " emotional. Look at your replies and other posts. You are the emotional one, the one NOT debating factually at all, the one who keeps playing the race card over and over and OVER again, and YOU are the one who abjectly lacks knowledge ( or is it just the admittance of same ? ) of the historical facts; continually whinging about " level playing fields " and " parity ". Laugh all you want, but my replies have been factual, unemotional, cogent,and on topic.It's your lack of comprhension, that is blinding you and making you sound foolish.

We live in a REPUBLIC; a free society,mostly unemcumbered by the racism you delusionally see everywhere. What you want is COMMUNISTIC/SOCIALISTIC; " special " treatment to assuage the aggirevement you carry around with you. You're deaf and blind to the present; look backwards and hate. You and your ilk are the RACISTS and answering you is worse than trying to talk sense to a ferral, rabid animal.

That hate is going to eat you alive; it has almost totally consumed you now. Go find another forum...this one isn't for you.

112 posted on 08/25/2003 10:07:30 PM PDT by nopardons
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