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To: exmarine
"Again, read the Free Exercise Clause over and over until you get it into your head that judges HAVE NO POWER to take away my right to pray anywhere or anytime I want, with whomever I want, and put up Christian symbols in a Courthouse in my community."

You seem to be misreading my posts, the 11th decision, or both. First - NOTHING in this decision affects your right to pray anywhere or anytime. NOTHING. Second - you rail against "separation of church and state" - that phrase is not even found in the opinion and is not a basis for the decision - the decision is based on the State giving favor to one religion over another - which the judicial officer involved ADMITS he is doing. THIRD - as I have said above, there is nothing in the 1st Amendment limiting YOUR right to hang symbols you like in the courthouse, as long as the courthouse will let you hang things there (and doesn't pick and choose what it will let one hang based upon a preference for one belief over another). Nothing in this opinion is prohibiting YOU from doing ANYTHING. What the opinion prohibits is the STATE choosing to display some religious symbols which it prefers to the exclusion of others which it does not. Plain and simple. None of the other "prohibitions" you raise are either addressed in the opinion or constitute the the law of the land.

426 posted on 07/02/2003 8:55:09 AM PDT by lugsoul
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To: lugsoul
You seem to be misreading my posts, the 11th decision, or both. First - NOTHING in this decision affects your right to pray anywhere or anytime.

Please - need I list all the past decisions that DID RESTRICT people's right to pray in schools, e.g. at valedictorian speeches, football games, etc. One judge threatened to jail a student for 6 months if he didn't follow the ruling! I can look these up and give you a list tomororw. These are all part of the public record. I say it's time to DEFY these moronic god-haters.

Second - you rail against "separation of church and state" - that phrase is not even found in the opinion and is not a basis for the decision - the decision is based on the State giving favor to one religion over another - which the judicial officer involved ADMITS he is doing.

You bet I rail against it - I hear it every day from the ACLU, American United (and their apostage leader Barry Lynn), and Democrats. It's in many other opinions and is used as the de facto ideological basis for ALL rulings on related matters. Who are you kidding? By the way, the framers were concerned with one Christian denomination over another, not one "religion" over another. There was no other religion to speak of in this country at that time. It is only recently that our nation has been invaded by the third world to such an extent that there is no longer any national common ground. But teh fact remains that our founding documents (the law of the land) are predicated upon CHRISTIAN moral principles and our laws undergirded by those principles. Again, if you don't like it, call a constitutional convention or amend the constitution - until then, you don't have a legal leg to stand on - you only have the power of usurpation.

THIRD - as I have said above, there is nothing in the 1st Amendment limiting YOUR right to hang symbols you like in the courthouse, as long as the courthouse will let you hang things there (and doesn't pick and choose what it will let one hang based upon a preference for one belief over another). And as long as not one single person is offended by it! (tyranny of the single protestor). Case in point - the Pledge Allegiance ruling by the 9th Circuit.

Nothing in this opinion is prohibiting YOU from doing ANYTHING. What the opinion prohibits is the STATE choosing to display some religious symbols which it prefers to the exclusion of others which it does not.

The 10 commandments are the basis of our laws counsellor, and are the ABSOLUTE FOUNDATION OF ALL MORAL LAW. Again, moral relativism rears its ugly head. Do you and the ACLU deny that the 10 commandments embody absolute moral principles or that they are the basis of our laws? They are emblazoned on the Supreme Court - REMOVE THEM!

430 posted on 07/02/2003 9:20:25 AM PDT by exmarine
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