Ala. Judge Loses Ten Commandments Appeal

Washington Post ^ | July 1, 2003 | Associated Press

[Lurking Libertarian]

I've read the decision-- it includes a strongly-worded warning to Judge Moore not to try to defy the court's order.

The decision is by Judge Carnes, a Bush Sr. appointee. The two concurring judges were appointed by Clinton and Reagan.

[SunStar]

The decision is by Judge Carnes, a Bush Sr. appointee. The two concurring judges were appointed by Clinton and Reagan.

Great. We're getting screwed by our own guys...

[Kevin Curry]

Now to replace it with a statue of two men engaged in anal sodomy.

[msdrby]

ping

[DPB101]

I've read the decision-- it includes a strongly-worded warning to Judge Moore not to try to defy the court's order.

So Federal judges see where this is going. One of them should have the guts to stop it before there is wide spread defiance.

[TheCrusader]

"Now to replace it with a statue of two men engaged in anal sodomy."

This would be considered as "art", and protected under the First Amendment. Freedom of Speech for Christians isn't allowed.

[GreatOne]

Screw 'em - let the Court of Appeals' army come get it. Rat bastards.

[muawiyah]

The 11th Circuit never did cotton to Jews and their religion anywy.

Those ol'boys have probably invested in a gas oven manufacturer anyway on the outside chance that they can make a killing.

[lugsoul]

Where in the hell does that slanderous crap come from?

[oldironsides]

Chester County Pennsylvania will be taking the drape off the 10 Commandment plaque on the courthouse. The 1920's gift hung there without a problem until the "Free Thought Society" wanted it down. The court found in favor of the
county keeping the plaque on the wall. The neighbors of the Free Thought Society leader put signs in each of their yards so the lady could see them every which way. I see them all over the county.

[sport]

Now to replace it with a statue of two men engaged in anal sodomy

Or two men engaged in oral sex, of better yet a man giving oral sex to a male child.

This would warm the cockles of every alcu member's heart.

[Lurking Libertarian]

So Federal judges see where this is going.

According to the court's opinion, Moore filed his own brief, in which he stated that, as Chief Justice of Alabama, he would have the final say as to whether the 11th Circuit's order was constitutional or not. Federal judges, including (especially?) conservative ones, do not take kindly to threats that their decisions will be defied, so they added some very pointed language saying that they "expect" Judge Moore to comply with their decision unless it is reversed by the Supreme Court, but that, "If necessary the court order will be enforced." That discussion is accompanied by citations to the court decisions from 1962 and 1963 which forced Governors Wallace and Barnett to obey school desegregation orders.

[TheCrusader]

"The 11th Circuit never did cotton to Jews and their religion anywy. Those ol'boys have probably invested in a gas oven manufacturer anyway on the outside chance that they can make a killing."

The Ten Commandments are every bit as much a part of the Christian religion as the Jewish religion. The Ten Commandments are taught in every Sunday School and Catholic CCD class in America.

[rwfromkansas]

oooh...a warning not to defy. Ooh I am scared.

Tell them to go screw themselves Mr. Moore.

lol

[rwfromkansas]

I hope Moore ignores them. Let's see the court enforce its own order. The bastards deserve to be hung for treason.

[Lurking Libertarian]

Tell them to go screw themselves Mr. Moore.

If he does that, the court will hold him in contempt and order the Federal Marshal's Service to arrest him. I doubt that even Ashcroft will order the Marshalls to disobey the court. After all, most of the time the Department of Justice is the one that wants federal court orders obeyed.

[muawiyah]

"Slanderous"?

Certainly you jest. The Ten Commandments has a singular and very clear source ~ it was part and parcel of the received truths handed down by Moses to the Hebrew people. Attacks on the Ten Commandments are invariably associated with attacks on Judaism.

Leftwingers and Liberals have been indulging themselves in anti-semitism in recent years, most noticeably in Europe, but also in this country. Unless they are called to account they will not stop just because they are on a federal court of appeals.

Besides, it's really not a legitimate act of any governmental body or official in this country to decide what is or is not religion. Those judges may have their own prejudices and personal beliefs, but they have no right to impose them on the rest of us.

The 11th Circuit cannot be respected by any honest citizen.

[muawiyah]

That's your narrow sectarian belief. You have no right to use a federal court to impose it on me, and if you do attempt it, both you and the judges you mislead can fairly be accused of being bigots.

[Dog Gone]

Would everyone here feel the same way if Judge Moore had placed a huge monument to the Koran on the courthouse lawn?

[TheCrusader]

"If he does that, the court will hold him in contempt and order the Federal Marshal's Service to arrest him."

Can you imagine this happening here, in the United States? A person getting arrested on Federal felony charges for displaying the Ten Commandments? How much longer before Christians will be worshipping in the catacombs again? We need a President like Emperor Constantine, who will make Christianity legal again.