To: truthandlife
y'know the repetition of "manufactured right to privacy" as if it were some kind of mantra really gets on my nerves. My right of privacy preceeded govt and the constitution and doesn't have to be manufactured by anybody seeing as how it already existed and nobody can lawfully take it away.
2 posted on
07/01/2003 10:49:58 AM PDT by
agitator
(Ok, mic check...line one...)
To: agitator
If the right to privacy is a natural right as you imply then the proper procedure under our system is to ammend the Constution to make this right an explicit legal right. To act as the Supreme Court did under Lawrence is usurp powers reserved for State Legilatures under the Constitution.
With one opinion the Supreme summarily removed from the State governments the right to regulate ANY sexual behavior. The Supreme Court eseentially asserted under Lawrence that State Goevrnments are too benighted to makes laws regarding these behaviors.
This ruling is an act of monumental effrontery and hubris on the part of the Supreme Court; it was also a legally incoherent and tortured legal opinion. It bespeaks of the contempt that elite opinion holds for traditional Constitutional understanding.
11 posted on
07/01/2003 11:50:22 AM PDT by
ggekko
To: agitator
y'know the repetition of "manufactured right to privacy" as if it were some kind of mantra really gets on my nerves. My right of privacy preceeded govt and the constitution and doesn't have to be manufactured by anybody seeing as how it already existed and nobody can lawfully take it away.There are two notions of privacy in play here -- the legitimate one you're invoking, which is central to the Fourth Amendment ("A man's home is his castle"), and the phony one ("Between a woman and her physician") that was conjured up to rationalize abortion as a "constitutional right" in Roe vs. Wade.
19 posted on
07/01/2003 1:37:19 PM PDT by
mrustow
(no tag)
To: agitator
y'know the repetition of "manufactured right to privacy" as if it were some kind of mantra really gets on my nerves. My right of privacy preceeded govt and the constitution and doesn't have to be manufactured by anybody seeing as how it already existed and nobody can lawfully take it away.The constitution does not give six unelected old f##ts the power to tell the states what they can and cannot make private. As a federal constitutional power, it does not exist. Thus, as a federal constitutional right, it was entirely manufactured out of, dare I say, wholecloth.
Do you have any doubt but that the founding fathers thought state sodomy laws were constitutional and based on sound policy? Or that the post-civil-war congress (who passed the 14th amendment) also felt the same way. If so, why did both groups write a constitution that banned state sodomy laws? The answer (of course) is, they did not and no reasonable person can argue otherwise, without being willfully blind to the constitution and the historic record.
It took 230 years for six old f##ts to make-up the right of Sodomy (or the right of "privacy" for the squeamish who need nice euphemisms). "Manufactured right" is a reasonable synonym for this entirely made up right.
And that's why the term "manufactured" right is repeated over-and-over. And that's why, for that use, the term is quite precise.
To: agitator
Amen. It scares me when conservatives disparage the right to privacy ... as if they'd enjoy the government poking around in their business.
25 posted on
07/01/2003 2:26:24 PM PDT by
Junior
("Eat recycled food. It's good for the environment and okay for you...")
To: agitator
Anarchy stinks.
32 posted on
07/01/2003 3:33:57 PM PDT by
roderick
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