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To: PatrioticAmerican; TheBattman
I DID read the article.

The author sets up the DOI as justifying secession.

The Declaration of Independence was, in fact, a declaration of secession. Its final paragraph declares inarguably the ultimate sovereignty of each state:

If it's final paragraph is inarguable, then so is its content, declaring the Legitimate Reasons for such an endeavor.

Secondly, Secession, technically is in Violation of Several parts of the Constitution.

Article 1 Section 10, Clause 1: No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation;
Refresh my memory, what did the sesseionists call their "Country" ?

And all of Section 3.

Section. 3.

Clause 1: New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

Clause 2: The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.

11 posted on 07/01/2003 6:56:25 AM PDT by hobbes1 ( Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: hobbes1
Do you think England could have had similar proclaimations worded to discourage or prevent "insurrection" against the Royal Crown? Maybe we can find it, too....
14 posted on 07/01/2003 7:09:35 AM PDT by azhenfud
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To: hobbes1
“Article 1 Section 10, Clause 1: No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation;
Refresh my memory, what did the sesseionists call their "Country" ?”

First, a state is a state in regards to those state within the union. Those states that have left the union are no longer covered by that clause. The clause relates to foreign entities.


“Clause 1: New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.”

Just what does that have to do with secession? That relates to dividing or joining states to form new states. That was placed in their to prevent a hostile takeover by forming states with greater powers.

“Clause 2: The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.”

Again, this covers only states belonging to the union. It does not prevent secession.
39 posted on 07/01/2003 8:42:43 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (If the only way an American can get elected is through Mexican votes, we have a war to be waged.)
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