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To: gaspar
Your definition of crime is wrong. Can you assault yourself? Can you defraud yourself? Can you press charges against yourself for damaging your own property?

The initiation of force or fraud upon another or his property is a crime. Nothing else. When Johnny breaks into your car to pay for his drug use, it is the action of theft that is the crime, not his drug use. What if Johnny goes to work every day to support his drug use, the same as people work all week and go to the bar on Friday night.

This is the definition of crime. An action may be "bad" or "immoral" or even "sinful" but until that action is the initiation of force or fraud against another person or their property, the action is not a crime.
9 posted on 07/01/2003 6:49:13 AM PDT by bc2
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To: bc2
How can Johnny put in a full week's work to pay for his drugs if he is stoned? How can he then be an employable, productive worker?
25 posted on 07/01/2003 12:44:36 PM PDT by cjshapi
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To: bc2
To answer your questions. Can you commit a crime by assaulting yourself: sure, viz., suicide, shooting up, etc. Can you defraud yourself? Sure, vote Libertarian. Can you press charges against yourself for damaging your property? No, but the police sure can, viz., arson.

In recorded history no civilization has ever opted for the legitimization and legalization of narcotics. Nonetheless, Libertarians reject the wisdom of the ages which underscores the idea that a drug that is harmful to one's intellect or to one's health is bad for the person and bad for society.

29 posted on 07/01/2003 2:09:34 PM PDT by gaspar
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To: bc2
This point has been made to the woddies so many times it's becoming farcical. You're wasting your breath. The will never get it.
30 posted on 07/01/2003 3:05:46 PM PDT by jayef
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