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Pools are pulling plug on deep ends, fearing safety hazard
Post Gazette ^ | June 30, 2003 | Jason Straziuso

Posted on 06/30/2003 5:05:41 PM PDT by hole_n_one

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:35:14 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

PHILADELPHIA -- The diving boards were pulled up in the 1980s, and now deep ends are being deep-sixed.

The rectangular municipal pool that many Americans grew up swimming, splashing and diving in is fast being replaced by shallow water park-style pools featuring spray toys and water slides.


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To: Moose4
' True sign I saw at the edge of a wave pool in a water park near Charleston, South Carolina--"0 FT 0 IN NO DIVING".


It's common to see a "No Diving" warning, posted next to hot tubs in hotel work out areas,I expect it's only a matter of time,before they will be posted next to the hotel bathtubs!
61 posted on 06/30/2003 6:45:21 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Sabertooth
BTW, people drown at the beach. Will there be a move toward shallow oceans?
Don't say that too loud.  I hear Gray Davis is taking bids on filling in the Pacific. He's sure that he can squeeze it in the budget - after all,  it's for the children.
 
 

62 posted on 06/30/2003 6:46:00 PM PDT by azcap
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To: azcap
You must realize, that life is inherently DANGEROUS! If we won't do everything to protect children from harm then we must take the most charitble action of all: abort them for their own safety!
63 posted on 06/30/2003 6:48:36 PM PDT by motor_racer
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To: Drew68; lawgirl; wardaddy; Squantos; harpseal
The old Las Vegas hotel "The Frontier" has a real honest-to-God throw-back to our days of freedom in the 50s and 60s mega swimming pool.

Sure, at one end of the olympic-sized pool there's a large semi-enclosed kiddie area. But the main pool gradually deepens, fully half is about 6 or more feet deep, and adjoining the deep end is a diving board "cube" about 30 X 30 X 15 feet deep.

You can tell by the marks on the cement they once had a tremendous trio of diving boards of all heights. All gone...

Remember high dives??!!

Remember when Americans were allowed to be BOLD!!!!!!

64 posted on 06/30/2003 6:50:23 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Henchster
OK, you may save water on chemicals and electricity/gas with a smaller gallonage, but a pool that is simply shallower, with the same surface area, uses the same amount of water, as water can only evaporate from the SURFACE of the pool, not the bottom.

And a shallower pool will get warmer too, so there will be *more* evaporation. It will get warmer for a couple of reasons, the major one being that the amount of heat coming in from the sun will be the same, but there will be more water to heat up in a deeper pool. Plus the water will loose energy to the surrounding soil, at least at much depth it will, and a deeper pool has more area at depth to lose heat through.

But then liberals don't really think, they just "feel", especially "For the Children".

65 posted on 06/30/2003 6:51:02 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Travis McGee
Taking my first jump off the high dive is one of the most exciting memories of my childhood. Facing your fears and conquering them is an important step into adulthood. Too badd today's kids won't ever get that thrill.
66 posted on 06/30/2003 6:53:14 PM PDT by lawgirl (God's divine and all-knowing punishment for the Clintons: America loves George W. Bush)
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To: hole_n_one
Too many children drown unattended in bath tubs. From now on all homes should have the removed!!

67 posted on 06/30/2003 6:53:18 PM PDT by armymarinemom
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To: luckystarmom
I wish we had a pool complex like that one where I live in Silicon Valley.

Isn't there a similar facility out in Manteca? A bit of a drive I know, but maybe a once or twice a season treat. There's also a water park in Concord.

68 posted on 06/30/2003 6:55:37 PM PDT by pbear8 ( sed libera nos a malo)
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To: lawgirl
I know it! High dives were such a rite of passage, and test of courage for kids to face!

Now you have to take your kids secretly to some cliff or tree to have anything like that experience.

69 posted on 06/30/2003 6:57:42 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: hole_n_one
Tell me this isn't the Onion. Every time I get the wife worked up to finally escape the Big Brother oppression of Europe and move to the States, some article like this surfaces and she gets scared off...
70 posted on 06/30/2003 7:01:50 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Travis McGee
Remember when Americans were allowed to be BOLD!!!!!!

Boldness is a masculine trait that could lead to risk-taking behavior. Risk-taking behavior might possibly be rewarded with success. This outcome would make the kids who do not take risks and do not acheive success feel bad about themselves and this might damage their self-esteem. Therefore, boldness should not be encouraged (especially in boys).

Is the </sarcasm> tag really neccessary?

71 posted on 06/30/2003 7:02:12 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Ramius
The gradual entry thing is interesting. I haven't been to a pool like that, but it sounds like a nice way to do pool design.

Our "muni" pool (that's what we called it) was rectangular about 2:1 ratio, with one entire long side being a sloped suface from zero to whatever the max depth (outside of the diving area) was. IIRC (it's only be 45 years or so) it was that same depth everywhere else outside the sloped and diving areas. It had a separate "kiddie" pool that an adult or older kid couldn't even float in. It also had 3 diving boards, two low and one high (10 feet I think). It was pretty deep down there, 12 feet maybe, maybe 14.

The newer pools, save one, were "L" shaped, with the deep end in the short arm of the "L", and no high board. That "one" was a simple rectangle, with 3 boards in the same configuration, but no "gradual entry. The older one pre-dated WW-II, but I don't know how much, it's a parking lot now, althought the "bath house" is still there. The second one was built in the mid 1950s and the "L"s staring in the late 50s or early 60s. Last I checked, (in march) the nearest "L" to my folks house (about 5 blocks) was still there. I'll never forget the summer before high school when Bonnie I. lost the top to her two piece suit in the deep end. :)

72 posted on 06/30/2003 7:02:14 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Ramius
This is great news for plaintiff's attorneys.
73 posted on 06/30/2003 7:05:19 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: motor_racer
The Liberal cry: Just Say NO to FUN!! Remember, fun can kill! Circle/slash fun, etc.

Now now, there some kinds of "fun" liberal seem to approve of. Wilding, mid-night basketball, and non-standard sex come to mind.

74 posted on 06/30/2003 7:06:07 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Travis McGee
High dive.....more or less
75 posted on 06/30/2003 7:06:10 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
It's common to see a "No Diving" warning, posted next to hot tubs in hotel work out areas,I expect it's only a matter of time,before they will be posted next to the hotel bathtubs!

I saw one by the therapy pool at the physical therapists earlier today!. That pool is only 6 feet deep, maybe 6'6, but you could easily hit your head on the opposite side if you dived much less than straight down. Still they had the sign, and the depth marking too. Wish they'd let me use, but I just go in to have my shoulder tortured 3 times a week. :)

76 posted on 06/30/2003 7:09:36 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: hole_n_one
They can have my diving board when they pry it from my cold, dead...
77 posted on 06/30/2003 7:12:16 PM PDT by solitas
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To: Moose4
If you swim in a shallow pool you risk hitting your feet on the bottom and injuring yourself. The obvious solution is a water sprinkler, they are much safer and pose lower risk of water. Remember what my statistics teacher taught: most people drown in rivers an average depth of only 4 inches. (sarcasm button stuck)
78 posted on 06/30/2003 7:13:42 PM PDT by POGIFFMOO (illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: luckystarmom
I'd like to know where you get your data for the "most kids get plenty of swimming in 5 or 6 feet". What aged kids? With what swimming skills? How was the survey conducted? What were the criteria used to determine what "plenty of swimming" is?

Whether you are correct or not, you see, *I* don't get plenty of swimming in 5 or 6 feet of water. I like to swim with my children. My five year-old is also a good swimmer and although 5 to 6 feet is adequate for him (now), even at 5'4" it's rather shallow for me to do a descent tuck dive. I'd like to teach him someday, but I'm not cracking my head on the bottom of the pool to do so.

My five year-old loves diving to the bottom after various objects. Our three foot hot tub is pathetically shallow. Two more feet makes it a bit more exciting for now, but it won't be long before he's capable and interested in going deeper.

I agree 5 or 6 feet may be adequate, but who in the world wants to live with adequate when superior is possible?

79 posted on 06/30/2003 7:16:13 PM PDT by FourPeas
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To: Travis McGee
Remember when Americans were allowed to be BOLD!!!!!!

When I got my first job, they put us up in the nearby hotel for a few days so we could look for a place to live. We found and put in contract on a house the first day of Memorial Day weekend, so we had two days to just lay around the pool and get in some laps AND DIVING. Courtsy of that diving, I got to spend my first few days on the job on crutches. :) Never thought to sue the Ramada people, nor my employer for putting us up in such a "dangerous" motel. I wasn't even covered by their insurance yet, since I didn't start work until Tuesday. We did get a "nice" (??) intro to the hospital were our second daughter was subseqently born, and were several of the family had various operations.

80 posted on 06/30/2003 7:17:04 PM PDT by El Gato
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