[Jeff Gordon]

With respect I am not addressing either.

I suspect the vast majority of you who are pushing for this ammendement are actually very much against States' Rights. Your nightmare is that one or two states may actually approve gay marriage. You hope to prevent this using the same tactics used by the SCOTUS to prevent individual states from regulating abortion - take the power away from the states.

[Sabertooth]

I suspect the vast majority of you who are pushing for this ammendement are actually very much against States' Rights.

The Amendment process intrinsically affirms States' Rights, as 3/4 of them are needed to ratify.

[Snuffington]

I suspect the vast majority of you who are pushing for this ammendement are actually very much against States' Rights. Your nightmare is that one or two states may actually approve gay marriage.

You mis-read the nightmare. The nightmare isn't that one or two states screws itself up, bad as that may be. The nightmare is that the judiciary forces gay marriage on all 50.

[Snuffington]

You hope to prevent this using the same tactics used by the SCOTUS to prevent individual states from regulating abortion - take the power away from the states.

It is utterly different from what the SCOTUS did regarding abortion. We're talking about putting the issue before the people following the amendment process established in the Constitution.

That is precisely what the pro-aborts should have had to go through. Instead they got the court to invent a new Constitutionally protected right to abortion out of thin air.

[longtermmemmory]

newsflash, the USSC did not just undo texas, they undid all states with soddomy laws. States which were not even a party to this suit. The game afoot is one of federal laws now. The USSC removed it from the states. It is done. The remedy to preventing this from moving into the homosexual marriage areana is a constitutional amendment. Mere laws do not offer any protection. We may not like it, but it is federal now.