New York City: Outlawing Self-Defense

frontpagemag.com ^ | 6.28.03 | Michael Tremoglie

[freepatriot32]

must be remedied immediately - by New York Governor George Pataki.

yeah right that will never happen hes a bigger political p***y then george bush

[jmc813]

ping

[sheik yerbouty]

Charles Hynes has for almost twenty years, been the hatefil prince of PC.

[SwinneySwitch]

“We’re not disputing that Mr. Dixon had a right to shoot the person who broke into his house. But he had no right to have that gun.”

Fine, let's go to a jury trial, DA(Dumb A$$) Hynes!

[Sonny M]

Dixon should have opted for trial. I doubt that any twelve Brooklyn citizens are as delusional as the Brooklyn DA. Dixon would never have been convicted.

With all due respect, this writer doesn't know all the facts of the case, essentially Hynes lowered the charge so that there would be no jury trial. By essentially stripping Dixon of a jury of 12, and putting a small but never the less longer then 3 day jail sentence as punishment, he basically extorted him into a plea.

[GigaDittos]

Better yet, "Mr Hynes, read the Second Amendment you stupid A-Hole!"

[CROSSHIGHWAYMAN]

Since you don't need a license to own a sword, I encourage everyone interested in protecting his own home to get one.

For close-in fighting....in the dark....where you know the terrain, a sword is a better weapon than a handgun.

A sharp blade will quickly "disarm" an intruder without killing him.

[A Navy Vet]

Better to be judged by 12 than carried by six.

[ItsOurTimeNow]

I agree.

I have several.

[Sonny M]

Better to be judged by 12 than carried by six.

How being judged by just one? That was Dixon's only option, he was not going to get a jury trial.

[Sonny M]

Since you don't need a license to own a sword, I encourage everyone interested in protecting his own home to get one.

Try having a sword in NYC and see what happens if the cops know it. Our penal code is like 18 pages on whats banned in regards to swords, knives, daggers, etc.

[freepatriot32]

so what exactly is legal in new york are you at least allowed to make a cross with your index fingers when a burglar is trying to kill you and your family or is that a no no too ?

[Sonny M]

so what exactly is legal in new york are you at least allowed to make a cross with your index fingers when a burglar is trying to kill you and your family or is that a no no too ?

I don't think its illegal, but he may sue you. My family got sued by a burglar who stepped on a rake (I know, like the cartoons, it does happen in real life), he broke his nose, got caught, and sued us.....and also included loss of income as part of the damages he sought.

Thankfully, he lost his case, and we pressed charges. Never the less, NYS's legislature is at best, idiotic, at worst, evil.

[Redbob]

You'd probably be surprised to learn that, even here in Texas, if you've got a baseball bat in your car, you'd better also have a glove - and be on the way to or from a game!

[ffusco]

...and a big foam finger, wearing a cup, spitting char and scratching yerself!

[Dark Wing]

FYI

[Houmatt]

Does anyone recall the name of Bernhard Goetz?

This Hynes guy is a true afthole.

[Centurion2000]

You'd probably be surprised to learn that, even here in Texas, if you've got a baseball bat in your car, you'd better also have a glove - and be on the way to or from a game!

It is rather odd that Texans can carry rifles and shotguns in their vehicles with no issues at all; pistols with a CCW, but clubs, knives and tomahawks (yes they are explicitly mentioned in the code) are banned.

[Conservative til I die]

As a NY'er this story is already old news, but I find hilarious that contradictory quote about having the right shoot someone in self-defense yet not being allowed to own a gun.

[Thud]

My understanding is that the U.S. Constitution guarantees a jury trial for any charge which is punishable by jail. States can regulate the terms of the jury - some have smaller juries for offenses punishable by less than a year's incarceration, but IMO they can't deny a jury trial if jail time is involved.