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New York City: Outlawing Self-Defense
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| 6.28.03
| Michael Tremoglie
Posted on 06/30/2003 11:27:05 AM PDT by freepatriot32
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must be remedied immediately - by New York Governor George Pataki.yeah right that will never happen hes a bigger political p***y then george bush
To: Roscoe
ping
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posted on
06/30/2003 11:30:11 AM PDT
by
jmc813
(If you're interested in joining a FR list to discuss Big Brother 4 on CBS, please FReepmail me)
To: freepatriot32
Charles Hynes has for almost twenty years, been the hatefil prince of PC.
To: freepatriot32
Were not disputing that Mr. Dixon had a right to shoot the person who broke into his house. But he had no right to have that gun.
Fine, let's go to a jury trial, DA(Dumb A$$) Hynes!
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posted on
06/30/2003 11:34:02 AM PDT
by
SwinneySwitch
(Freedom is not Free - Support the Troops!)
To: SwinneySwitch
Dixon should have opted for trial. I doubt that any twelve Brooklyn citizens are as delusional as the Brooklyn DA. Dixon would never have been convicted. With all due respect, this writer doesn't know all the facts of the case, essentially Hynes lowered the charge so that there would be no jury trial. By essentially stripping Dixon of a jury of 12, and putting a small but never the less longer then 3 day jail sentence as punishment, he basically extorted him into a plea.
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posted on
06/30/2003 11:43:52 AM PDT
by
Sonny M
("oderint dum metuant")
To: SwinneySwitch
Better yet, "Mr Hynes, read the Second Amendment you stupid A-Hole!"
To: freepatriot32
Since you don't need a license to own a sword, I encourage everyone interested in protecting his own home to get one.
For close-in fighting....in the dark....where you know the terrain, a sword is a better weapon than a handgun.
A sharp blade will quickly "disarm" an intruder without killing him.
To: Sonny M
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by six.
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posted on
06/30/2003 12:20:41 PM PDT
by
A Navy Vet
( b)
To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
I agree.
I have several.
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posted on
06/30/2003 12:23:01 PM PDT
by
ItsOurTimeNow
("For great justice...")
To: A Navy Vet
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by six.How being judged by just one? That was Dixon's only option, he was not going to get a jury trial.
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posted on
06/30/2003 12:24:05 PM PDT
by
Sonny M
("oderint dum metuant")
To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
Since you don't need a license to own a sword, I encourage everyone interested in protecting his own home to get one.Try having a sword in NYC and see what happens if the cops know it. Our penal code is like 18 pages on whats banned in regards to swords, knives, daggers, etc.
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posted on
06/30/2003 12:25:38 PM PDT
by
Sonny M
("oderint dum metuant")
To: Sonny M
so what exactly is legal in new york are you at least allowed to make a cross with your index fingers when a burglar is trying to kill you and your family or is that a no no too ?
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posted on
06/30/2003 1:50:06 PM PDT
by
freepatriot32
(Heaven is weary, of the hollow words Which States and Kingdoms utter when they talk of justice)
To: freepatriot32
so what exactly is legal in new york are you at least allowed to make a cross with your index fingers when a burglar is trying to kill you and your family or is that a no no too ?I don't think its illegal, but he may sue you. My family got sued by a burglar who stepped on a rake (I know, like the cartoons, it does happen in real life), he broke his nose, got caught, and sued us.....and also included loss of income as part of the damages he sought.
Thankfully, he lost his case, and we pressed charges. Never the less, NYS's legislature is at best, idiotic, at worst, evil.
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posted on
06/30/2003 2:15:02 PM PDT
by
Sonny M
("oderint dum metuant")
To: Sonny M
You'd probably be surprised to learn that, even here in Texas, if you've got a baseball bat in your car, you'd better also have a glove - and be on the way to or from a game!
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posted on
06/30/2003 2:24:32 PM PDT
by
Redbob
To: Redbob
...and a big foam finger, wearing a cup, spitting char and scratching yerself!
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posted on
06/30/2003 2:35:15 PM PDT
by
ffusco
(Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
To: Thud
FYI
To: freepatriot32
Does anyone recall the name of Bernhard Goetz?
This Hynes guy is a true afthole.
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posted on
06/30/2003 3:05:58 PM PDT
by
Houmatt
(Remember Jeffrey Curley and Jesse Dirkhising!)
To: Redbob
You'd probably be surprised to learn that, even here in Texas, if you've got a baseball bat in your car, you'd better also have a glove - and be on the way to or from a game! It is rather odd that Texans can carry rifles and shotguns in their vehicles with no issues at all; pistols with a CCW, but clubs, knives and tomahawks (yes they are explicitly mentioned in the code) are banned.
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posted on
06/30/2003 3:24:14 PM PDT
by
Centurion2000
(We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
To: SwinneySwitch
As a NY'er this story is already old news, but I find hilarious that contradictory quote about having the right shoot someone in self-defense yet not being allowed to own a gun.
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posted on
06/30/2003 4:38:05 PM PDT
by
Conservative til I die
(They say anti-Catholicism is the thinking man's anti-Semitism; that's an insult to thinking men)
To: Sonny M; Dark Wing
My understanding is that the U.S. Constitution guarantees a jury trial for any charge which is punishable by jail. States can regulate the terms of the jury - some have smaller juries for offenses punishable by less than a year's incarceration, but IMO they can't deny a jury trial if jail time is involved.
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posted on
06/30/2003 4:54:17 PM PDT
by
Thud
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